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Offline swagmaster420x

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I hate coding
on: October 08, 2015, 08:25:52 AM
It degrades my soul

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 09:11:20 AM
It's an art.  Poetry - once you speak the language fluently. 
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 09:26:35 AM
Do you code? I highly doubt you do.

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
The interest lies in devising algorithms, with the implementation into code being pretty mechanical, or so I used to find. There was a certain satisfaction years ago in boosting speed by using machine code, that was good fun, for example on the old Amigas. But in general the enjoyment for me came in discovering algorithms. I used to do that away from the computer on scraps of paper or just thinking. Then once I had the whole thing in my mind I knocked off the code very rapidly. Thus much of my working life was spent sitting staring into space, and everybody thought I was idling. I agree that testing and debugging is mechanical, and not at all stimulating. What is really good is when programs you have written produce surprising results of their own, e. g. algorithmic music and art.

Perhaps the problems you are coding are too simple to stimulate your imagination
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 10:18:12 AM
Do you code? I highly doubt you do.
I have tweaked - mostly in C.  Midi is fun to play with.  I've reversed the order of the keys, amplified the dynamic contrasts, random aural training - that kind of thing.  I started by writing a program to teach myself touch typing.
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 05:41:46 PM
The interest lies in devising algorithms, with the implementation into code being pretty mechanical, or so I used to find. There was a certain satisfaction years ago in boosting speed by using machine code, that was good fun, for example on the old Amigas. But in general the enjoyment for me came in discovering algorithms. I used to do that away from the computer on scraps of paper or just thinking. Then once I had the whole thing in my mind I knocked off the code very rapidly. Thus much of my working life was spent sitting staring into space, and everybody thought I was idling. I agree that testing and debugging is mechanical, and not at all stimulating. What is really good is when programs you have written produce surprising results of their own, e. g. algorithmic music and art.

Perhaps the problems you are coding are too simple to stimulate your imagination
You're basically a mathematician then, and I think math is fun.
That's actually a pretty cool idea - a program to test your touch typing abilities.
All the coding I have done is for class. The project I am currently complaining about has to do with creating an assembler and linker to translate assembly into machine code. Of course tons of framework has been provided, or else we wouldn't live to see the end of the week.

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #6 on: October 09, 2015, 01:49:08 AM
Having to supplement the somewhat meager living I made as a working musician (one does have to eat... ) I did coding -- only I referred to it as programming -- for a living, starting (gasp!) in 1964.  Mostly using Fortran and Fortran derivatives (the latter for managing very large databases), but also a couple of projects in pure machine in the early days, trying to get more speed out of 8086/8087 chips than they were supposed to be able to do, to manage some real time stuff.

I really did enjoy writing really elegant, compact, clear, fast code.  I felt then -- and still feel -- that pretty much anyone with a sense of logic can write code, once they learn the language, but to write really good stuff... there's an art to that.

And I completely agree with Ted -- a good bit of the time one is staring off into space, driving your boss crazy!

And I'm proud to be able to say that two of my better programs are still running and in use today, one 30 years and one 20 years after I started work on them.  The 30 year one is a major component of the European General Circulation climate and weather-forecasting system.
Ian

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #7 on: October 09, 2015, 04:16:48 AM
Impressive!
Pianostreet is full of smarties.

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #8 on: October 09, 2015, 06:30:13 AM
1964!?  I bet you had a cool pair of horn-rimmed glasses.  ;D
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #9 on: October 09, 2015, 08:06:23 AM
What's coding?

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #10 on: October 09, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
What's coding?
I did coding -- only I referred to it as programming -- for a living, starting (gasp!) in 1964.  
Maybe you wanna be asking wat's reading?  Huh?
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #11 on: October 09, 2015, 08:23:01 AM
What's coding?
What's Estimation of Groundwater Recharge by Chloride?

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #12 on: October 09, 2015, 09:08:20 AM
What's Estimation of Groundwater Recharge by Chloride?
My bedtime reading!
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #13 on: October 09, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
What's Estimation of Groundwater Recharge by Chloride?
What's quantification of capsaicin content in chilli's using Cyclic Voltammetry?

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #14 on: October 09, 2015, 11:05:39 AM
What's quantification of capsaicin content in chilli's using Cyclic Voltammetry?
That's an easy one!
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Re: I hate coding
Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 11:35:53 AM
I like making little things in HandBASIC for ipad. Most are based on math that I use in origami. Others are text-based for other projects. Nothing serious.

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #16 on: October 09, 2015, 11:47:52 AM
Years ago, 1990 I think, I had a job interview with a major heavy equipment manufacturing firm at their tech center.

The job as advertised sounded like exactly my lane, analyzing vibration components for their engines. 

However it turned out the real job was something else.  Their normalization programs for data capture had thousands and thousands of lines of undocumented Cobol, and they wanted it all rewritten in Fortran.  I don't know why they were interviewing a mechanical engineer rather than a computer scientist or EE. 

It was a really good company to work for but I had to be honest with them and say I was not really the right guy for that job.  Probably I could have done it, but oh, the pain!
Tim

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Re: I hate coding
Reply #17 on: October 10, 2015, 12:01:12 AM
What's coding?

https://www.codeconquest.com/what-is-coding/


That's what I was thinking it was.   Programming, right?  Making software, apps, that type of thing?
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."
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