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Offline schumaniac

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This is a big discussion question.
Feel free to make jokes as well.

Here are some of my shallow "predictions:" I'd be the most popular kid in school. I think that perhaps everyone care about the Juilliard requirements for high school courses (like all student athletes care about how "NCAA says they don't have to do X") and that the National Orchestra League would host the annual Super Bowl, appropriately, in the Hollywood Bowl. People would go to each other's houses to eat barbecue while watching the final rounds of the Cliburn. And, people would play Fantasy Quartet and overwhelmingly focus on the "stats" of musicians to determine their supposed "worth."

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This is a big discussion question.
Feel free to make jokes as well.

Here are some of my shallow "predictions:" I'd be the most popular kid in school. I think that perhaps everyone care about the Juilliard requirements for high school courses (like all student athletes care about how "NCAA says they don't have to do X") and that the National Orchestra League would host the annual Super Bowl, appropriately, in the Hollywood Bowl. People would go to each other's houses to eat barbecue while watching the final rounds of the Cliburn. And, people would play Fantasy Quartet and overwhelmingly focus on the "stats" of musicians to determine their supposed "worth."

And even more people would be really lazy. They'd be spending their time listening to music all day instead of working out.

But maybe that's not the case. I guess in Warsaw, people are not as fat...

BTW, why Juillard? Curtis is the much better choice, unless you're one of those great people smart enough to actually improve in Juillard.

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IIRC Curtis is focused less on classical and more on jazz and modern. Don't quote me on that, though.

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IIRC Curtis is focused less on classical and more on jazz and modern. Don't quote me on that, though.

But still, you're less likely to lose potential in Curtis than in Juillard.

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Does Julliard kill your soul or something?

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But still, you're less likely to lose potential in Curtis than in Juillard.
Haha but what do you know?? (well, you do live in NY so maybe that's how you know... just maybe)

But tbh NY is full of culture and stuff XD not like Curtis. Curtis is in... Philadelphia. And it's literally just 2 buildings. 

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This is a big discussion question.
Feel free to make jokes as well.

Here are some of my shallow "predictions:" I'd be the most popular kid in school. I think that perhaps everyone care about the Juilliard requirements for high school courses (like all student athletes care about how "NCAA says they don't have to do X") and that the National Orchestra League would host the annual Super Bowl, appropriately, in the Hollywood Bowl. People would go to each other's houses to eat barbecue while watching the final rounds of the Cliburn. And, people would play Fantasy Quartet and overwhelmingly focus on the "stats" of musicians to determine their supposed "worth."

L O L  - dont forget the talk shows about it

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Haha but what do you know?? (well, you do live in NY so maybe that's how you know... just maybe)

But tbh NY is full of culture and stuff XD not like Curtis. Curtis is in... Philadelphia. And it's literally just 2 buildings. 

Well they have less people.

And it's almost a full scholarship tuition.

Juillard, on the other hand, RARELY gives full merit scholarships. However, the people who do get full merit scholarships are probably smart enough to actually improve at Juillard.

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L O L  - dont forget the talk shows about it
Yes!! And with the vaguest questions too: "Is Lang Lang a has-been?" the only options being "Yes" and "No" ;D (This is my opinion on most speculative/gossiping talk shows about sports)

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Well they have less people.

And it's almost a full scholarship tuition.

Juillard, on the other hand, RARELY gives full merit scholarships. However, the people who do get full merit scholarships are probably smart enough to actually improve at Juillard.
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after a few years you'll probably be like: "wow I was so stupid"

Curtis is kind of creatively stifling though... Philadelphia is gross
New York, on the other hand, is where everything is, where you can hear all the great artists, surround yourself with awesome people, look at all the great art and read all the great books, and then look at nature... like Central Park and the giant river lake thingamabob (I'm obsessed with rivers- cause California doesn't have any except for their pathetic concrete trenches that have a single thin line of water that kinda just sits in the middle of the trench)
Anyway, I would want to go to New York; it's the most vibrant and lively place in the US. Philadelphia though.....

But we should go back on topic. If you want to debate about Juilliard vs. Curtis vs. other schools (there are more out there, you know, and they're all great), then you can make your own poll.

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after a few years you'll probably be like: "wow I was so stupid"

Curtis is kind of creatively stifling though... Philadelphia is gross
New York, on the other hand, is where everything is, where you can hear all the great artists, surround yourself with awesome people, look at all the great art and read all the great books, and then look at nature... like Central Park and the giant river lake thingamabob (I'm obsessed with rivers- cause California doesn't have any except for their pathetic concrete trenches that have a single thin line of water that kinda just sits in the middle of the trench)
Anyway, I would want to go to New York; it's the most vibrant and lively place in the US. Philadelphia though.....

But we should go back on topic. If you want to debate about Juilliard vs. Curtis vs. other schools (there are more out there, you know, and they're all great), then you can make your own poll.


Yeah, Juillard has Steven Liin. He's one of the most lively players there are.

BTW, what happened to Juillard? It used to be the best (except for Moscow and St. Petersburg Conservatories), but now...........

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Yeah, Juillard has Steven Liin. He's one of the most lively players there are.

BTW, what happened to Juillard? It used to be the best (except for Moscow and St. Petersburg Conservatories), but now...........


But now what? Who are you referring too?

Tiffany Poon is there, Annie Zhou is there, Tony Yang is there (like him or not), Qi Kong is there, Sean Chen went there, my good friend is there HAHAHA... Juilliard has always been a symbol of prestige.

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But now what? Who are you referring too?

Tiffany Poon is there, Annie Zhou is there, Tony Yang is there (like him or not), Qi Kong is there, Sean Chen went there, my good friend is there HAHAHA... Juilliard has always been a symbol of prestige.


Qi Kong goes to Juillard???????????


OK, there are too many amazinig exceptions, I should shut up ;D

BTW who does he study from??

Oh, and who is that good friend?

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Qi Kong goes to Juillard???????????


OK, there are too many amazinig exceptions, I should shut up ;D

BTW who does he study from??

Oh, and who is that good friend?

want me to PM you his name? he's at precollege.

But what if you're not actually the docile, 7th grade Asian piano student like you say you are? Then you'd figure out all my personal info, the precise area of California in which I live......... #internetsafetyprobs

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Qi Kong goes to Juillard???????????


OK, there are too many amazinig exceptions, I should shut up ;D

BTW who does he study from??

Oh, and who is that good friend?

Also Fei Fei Dong, like her not, went to Juilliard and was SUPER good esp from 2010-2013

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Also Fei Fei Dong, like her not, went to Juilliard and was SUPER good esp from 2010-2013

I never heard her play, so......

And I asked you a question, WHO DOES QI KONG STUDY FROM. You didn't answer.

(Okay, now I'm behaving like a 6th grader....)

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want me to PM you his name? he's at precollege.

But what if you're not actually the docile, 7th grade Asian piano student like you say you are? Then you'd figure out all my personal info, the precise area of California in which I live......... #internetsafetyprobs

Bruh Eleanor Angel is just a pseudonym, but I am a 7th grade Asian piano student. I don't know what docile means though, and I want to keep up our posting every second.

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Hmmm... Docile is a nice word.

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Bruh Eleanor Angel is just a pseudonym, but I am a 7th grade Asian piano student. I don't know what docile means though, and I want to keep up our posting every second.
nope I have to eat dinner
and you should go to sleep
you guys have literally NO work

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nope I have to eat dinner
and you should go to sleep
you guys have literally NO work
I had a lot of work, but I finish it each time I get home ;D And it just happened that today there wasn't much homework ;D

Well, actually, homework isn't actually work. Because its easy. Except when I have to do negative fractions. Then it makes me exhausted, even though it is easy.

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Does Julliard kill your soul or something?
Your face kills your soul.

Offline schumaniac

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I had a lot of work, but I finish it each time I get home ;D And it just happened that today there wasn't much homework ;D

Well, actually, homework isn't actually work. Because its easy. Except when I have to do negative fractions. Then it makes me exhausted, even though it is easy.
Yeah 7th grade is easy as f---. Algebra I? Puh-leez.

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Your face kills your soul.
your face killed your mom's soul. that's why your upbringin has been so lacking in affection

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And even more people would be really lazy. They'd be spending their time listening to music all day instead of working out.
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I disagree with that.

Most of the people I see when I go to the gym don't work out and become meatheads to play sports.  They work out just to look good.


But anyways...

Everyone wouod be getting full rides if they went to music schools.  And it would be WAY more competitive than it already is now. 
Live large, die large.  Leave a giant coffin.

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I disagree with that.

Most of the people I see when I go to the gym don't work out and become meatheads to play sports.  They work out just to look good.


But anyways...

Everyone wouod be getting full rides if they went to music schools.  And it would be WAY more competitive than it already is now. 

ikr I'm so jealous of basketball players because of that.

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You would probably see more ethnic diversity iin music in the US too :P

It's actually not a question of value, it's more a question of accessibility. Learning classical piano is a very middle class activity.

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You would probably see more ethnic diversity iin music in the US too :P

It's actually not a question of value, it's more a question of accessibility. Learning classical piano is a very middle class activity.

lol

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The world would be a better place.

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Here are the 20 Chopin Semi-finalist's Schools:


Luigi Carrocia- Claudio Monteverdi Conservatory
Galina Christakova- Moscow Conservatory 1993-2005; Incontri col Maestro Academy (current)
Seong-jin Cho- Paris Conservatory
Chi Ho Han- School of Performing Arts (Seoul);Folkwang University of Arts (Essen); Lake Como Academy; Hannover Conservatory/Hoschule(current)
Aljosa Jurinc-  Scuolo di Musica (Fresola, 2011-14); Hochschule fur Musik Franz Liszt (Weimar, current)
Su Yeon Kim- Institute for Artistically Talented Pupils (2007-10); Korea National University of the Arts; Mozarteum(Salzburg, current)
Dinara Klinton- Moscow Conservatory; Royal School of Music
Aimi Kobayashi- Curtis Institute of Music
Marek Kozak- Leo Janacek Conservatory; Prague Academy of Performinc Arts (current);
Lukasz Krupinski- Zenon Brzewski Secondary School of Music (Warsaw); Frederick Chopin University of Music (Warsaw, current)
Krzysztof Ksiazek- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Kate Liu- Chicago Institute of Music; Curtis Institute of Music (current)
Eric Lu- New England Conservatory- Prepatory School; Curtis Institute of Music;
Szymon Nehrig- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Georgis Osokins- Juillard School (he's a freshman)
Charles Richard-Hamelin- McGill University; Yale School of Music;
Dmitry Shishkin- Pyotr Tchaikovsky School (Chelyabinsk); Gressin School (Moscow); Moscow Conservaotry (current);
Alexei- Tartakovsky- Eleanor Sokoloff & Marcantonio Barone; Matti Raekallio(Juillard School?))Nina Lelchuk(Queen's College?); Boris Slutsky (Peabody Conservaotry) Boris Berman (Yale University?, current)
Zi Xu- Bydgoszcz School of Music;Bydgoszcz Music Academy (current);
Tony Yike Yang- Royal School in Toronto (I think?); Juillard School Pre-College(current)

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your face killed your mom's soul. that's why your upbringin has been so lacking in affection

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bump

let's keep this going guys!

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We'd have fewer knuckle-draggers, and none of the GOP candidates would even stand a chance.

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What I think is that actually the arts are more valued than sports in the world. Not only music is art, but all the TV series, movies, most books etc.

And even more people would be really lazy. They'd be spending their time listening to music all day instead of working out.

People spend a lot of time by watching TV.
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