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Question: You can choose 2. (btw, I also included some obscure players Grin)
Glenn Gould - 8 (30.8%)
Andras Schiff - 5 (19.2%)
Murray Perahia - 2 (7.7%)
Sviatoslav Richter - 4 (15.4%)
Grigory Sokolov - 1 (3.8%)
Samuil Feinberg - 1 (3.8%)
Evgeny Koroliov - 0 (0%)
Rosalyn Tureck - 1 (3.8%)
someone not on this list - 3 (11.5%)
Bach just shouldn't be played on piano - 1 (3.8%)
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« on: October 25, 2015, 06:39:34 PM »

I'm curious, especially since we can only draw conjectures as to how to interpret Bach's music; some people follow every single "advance" made in early music research, and on the other extreme, there've been many players who use "Romantic" approaches ("'cause if Bach were alive today...")
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 06:44:36 PM »

So here are the results:
schumaniac- Perahia and Gould
rubinsteinmad- someone else & bach just shouldn't be played on piano (nor harpsichord Roll Eyes jk)

Anyways, I don't really like Sokolov playing early mjusic (except for Rameau). It just sounds meh.

I think Gould doesn't shape much, and hes kinda harsh. Perahia is better, he's very clean and polished.

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 06:48:17 PM »

I like Daivd Fray and Simone Dinnerstein. They are very contrasting players. David Fray is less eccentric, and his playing and touch is more refined. On the other hand, Dinnerstein can produce sounds out of the piano that I didn't know were possible (unless she cheated by playing it on an electric piano heheheh). However, Dinnerstein would be kicked out in any big music competition (except for maybe America Got Talent) with a conservative judge. But who cares, because she plays really beautifully.

 I think I also like Andras Schiff. His playing is so dreamy sometimes.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 06:52:55 PM »

Crazy, but both David Fray and Simone Dinnerstein are big on(1) Bach and (2)Schubert. Andras Schiff is also noted for his interpretations of Bach, Beethoven, Schubert, and Schumann. According to Wikipedia, he's also renowned for his Mozart, but that's kinda funny, because Ive never heard him play Mozart  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 06:57:04 PM »

I also like Helene Grimaud and Alexandre Tharaud. Boris Bloch is nice, too. (He used to be Evgeny Bozhanov's teacher.)
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 07:25:44 PM »

Rosalyn Turek all day long. Absolute tops in my world
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2015, 10:52:33 PM »

Rosalyn Turek all day long. Absolute tops in my world

oh my god I feel absolutely dumb now for not including her in the poll
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 10:57:36 PM »

oh my god I feel absolutely dumb now for not including her in the poll


Don't feel bad for forgetting Tureck. You forgot all the ladies! (Dinnerstein, Tureck, Hewitt, ect.)
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2015, 03:37:36 PM »

Don't feel bad for forgetting Tureck. You forgot all the ladies! (Dinnerstein, Tureck, Hewitt, ect.)
I'm sorry Sad (Dinnerstein isn't that famous though)

I feel dumb for forgetting Hewitt though. I'll add her to the poll since she has a solid "fan base," also as one of the 4-5 notable pianists from Canada
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2015, 07:55:19 PM »

I'm sorry Sad (Dinnerstein isn't that famous though)

I feel dumb for forgetting Hewitt though. I'll add her to the poll since she has a solid "fan base," also as one of the 4-5 notable pianists from Canada

Also, Maria Tipo and Tatiana Nikoleyeva (I don't see how anyone would vote for Nikoleyeva, though..  Tongue )
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2015, 08:00:18 PM »

I'm sorry Sad (Dinnerstein isn't that famous though)


Yeah, she's kinda controversial.

Music puritans HATE her, while lovers-of-beauty will appreciate her as one of the best classical pianists in America.


I have a feeling  though, that her virtuosity isn't as great as some other pianists. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2015, 09:18:26 PM »

No Schiff for me, please.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2015, 12:03:13 AM »

No Schiff for me, please.

Change your tastebuds, please.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2015, 04:30:52 AM »

Also, Maria Tipo and Tatiana Nikoleyeva (I don't see how anyone would vote for Nikoleyeva, though..  Tongue )
I considered adding them but I thought they were too "niche" for this forum Grin
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2015, 04:35:49 AM »

No Schiff for me, please.

You shouldn't have listened to his Chopin...

You really don't like his Baroque recordings? Why exactly?
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2015, 02:29:36 PM »

You shouldn't have listened to his Chopin...

You really don't like his Baroque recordings? Why exactly?

Yes, his Chopin preludes recording made me want to barf. But I am not the biggest fan of his Bach either. He adds little notes and trills everywhere that aren't written in the score. Actually, Pollini has some excellent Preludes & Fugues, even though he isn't exactly known for his Bach.
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2015, 03:02:11 PM »

the lack of Neuhaus in this disc is sad/shocking
another i almost always default to, I can find no fault or reason to not look here for inspiration.



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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 11:12:47 PM »

the lack of Neuhaus in this disc is sad/shocking
another i almost always default to, I can find no fault or reason to not look here for inspiration.





He taught Emil Gilels, just saying.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2015, 03:41:58 AM »

Yes, his Chopin preludes recording made me want to barf. But I am not the biggest fan of his Bach either. He adds little notes and trills everywhere that aren't written in the score.

But that's how it's supposed to be...In the Baroque era if you played just what was written on the score people would have laughed and thrown rotten eggs at you   Grin
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2015, 05:11:40 AM »

the lack of Neuhaus in this disc is sad/shocking
another i almost always default to, I can find no fault or reason to not look here for inspiration.




Neuhaus is a GREAT pianist (Chopin, Scriabin, Bach as you've said) and GREAT pedagogue (having taught all those guys). He was not as famous for performing though and I didn't expect  many people to be familiar with his recordings, so I didn't include him.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2015, 02:56:44 PM »

He taught Emil Gilels, just saying.
yep. he also taught Richter (and was pupil of-and thus connects by lineage- Scriabin).
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2015, 03:02:20 PM »

Neuhaus is a GREAT pianist (Chopin, Scriabin, Bach as you've said) and GREAT pedagogue (having taught all those guys). He was not as famous for performing though and I didn't expect  many people to be familiar with his recordings, so I didn't include him.
Neuhaus studied w Scriabin, and his playing is top notch. He rubbed elbows w/ Alexander Goldenweisser (who was teacher for a bit  for a pupil some may know today, Kapustin, recall reading that somewhere).

I'm sad i cannot find footage of Godlenweiser's approach to Bach though....
*his composing is super great though, he studied w Siloti and Pabst, and he did recitals w Rachmaninoff, and his first teacher was a pupil of Tchaikovsky).
there's some surviving clips of his playing ie Beethoven and here Chopin

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2015, 07:24:01 PM »

Anyone who says Schiff, needs a lobotomy.

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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2015, 07:34:42 PM »

Anyone who says Schiff, needs a lobotomy.

Thal

Well at least he is better than Gould  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2015, 07:49:54 PM »

Well, so is my Venus Flytrap.

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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2015, 07:51:58 PM »

Well, so is my Venus Flytrap.

Thal

I'm not too impressed.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2015, 07:53:18 PM »

If you like Schiff playing Bach, you are too easily impressed.

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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2015, 07:56:27 PM »



If you like Schiff playing Bach, you are too easily impressed.

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You misunderstood me.

I meant that the fact that your Venus Flytrap plays better than Gould doesn't impress me that much  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2015, 08:23:53 PM »

Anyone who says Schiff, needs a lobotomy.

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Y'all are mean!!

And Gould may not be to your liking, but he had some of the best technique on earth and could play all voices of a fugue clearly at breakneck speed... He also revolutionized the use of technology in music
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2015, 08:31:51 PM »

Y'all are mean!!

And Gould may not be to your liking, but he had some of the best technique on earth and could play all voices of a fugue clearly at breakneck speed... He also revolutionized the use of technology in music

You just gave "theholygidgeons" an excuse to say that Asians only can do Speed.
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2015, 09:33:00 PM »

Glenn Gould forever! I feel he really captures Bach's sense of musical architecture. At this point I can't really listen to anyone else, because it just wouldn't be the same.

Also, another underrated Bach player is Friedrich Gulda.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2015, 09:51:28 PM »

Glenn Gould.  If you must have Bach on piano.  However, if you really want to hear it played beautifully, try Wanda Landowska (if you can find her recordings), on harpsichord.  Or any one of a number of people for the organ works.
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2015, 01:05:44 AM »

Glenn Gould.  If you must have Bach on piano.  However, if you really want to hear it played beautifully, try Wanda Landowska (if you can find her recordings), on harpsichord.  Or any one of a number of people for the organ works.
Was waiting for yhe nod to Landowska.
Always reminds me of Turek's quote to her , see below excerpt from an article that appeared shortly after her passing


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"You play it your way; I play it Bach's way." Addressing the indomitable harpsichordist Wanda Landowska, the equally indomitable Rosalyn Tureck, who has died aged 88, made one of her most famous and characteristic statements. For J. S. Bach was the composer to whom this strong-willed, demanding, fearsomely intelligent American keyboard player dedicated her life, both as performer and scholar.

She went against a prevailing fashion by playing Bach on the modern grand pianoforte. That this has now again become an acceptable practice is mainly due to Tureck's artistry, persistence and example.

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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2015, 01:16:09 AM »

Was waiting for yhe nod to Landowska.
Always reminds me of Turek's quote to her , see below excerpt from an article that appeared shortly after her passing


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Rosalyn Tureck, Musician, 1914-2003

"You play it your way; I play it Bach's way." Addressing the indomitable harpsichordist Wanda Landowska, the equally indomitable Rosalyn Tureck, who has died aged 88, made one of her most famous and characteristic statements. For J. S. Bach was the composer to whom this strong-willed, demanding, fearsomely intelligent American keyboard player dedicated her life, both as performer and scholar.

She went against a prevailing fashion by playing Bach on the modern grand pianoforte. That this has now again become an acceptable practice is mainly due to Tureck's artistry, persistence and example.



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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2016, 07:38:43 PM »

Gould, all the way. To me, he has a good balance of tasteful dynamics and virtuosity (except that A minor 2-part Invention. What a show-off!  Roll Eyes ). His playing also matured a lot over time, and there is such a change of character between the two Goldberg recordings. Mind you, I only like his Bach.

Hewitt would be a close second. Her playing is so clear; nearly transparent in places.
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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2016, 08:12:54 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2016, 09:11:56 PM »

Haha thanks, Noah!
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« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2016, 09:56:08 PM »

Bach himself.
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« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2016, 10:00:50 PM »

Bach himself.
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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2016, 11:51:53 PM »

He sounds pretty good.
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