How to practice literature [Bob project]

[Bob]

This is part of an idea I've got rolling around in my mind.... It may have even been asked before (sorry).

I'm trying to make a general plan for preparing a piece of music.  I'm wondering what each step would be?  I want to have it all planned out and then split into doable chunks.

What are the parts?
1.  There's the technique.  Whether you can actually play the piece straight off or whether you have some developing to do.
2.  There's the way you understand and hear the piece.  Is it possible to just train your fingers to play without having "you" involved really.  I don't want to train my fingering to just play things.
   2a.  You can study a piece and discover things about it.  And there's also being aware of those things WHILE you play the piece.  It is possible to study the piece and then forget all that stuff and "let you fingers do the walking."  That's not a happy thought.  On the opposite, you can have the skill to "read" concepts at sight.  Being able to see and hear chords on sight, for example.  This takes a long time to develop though.  And you may not even be aware of it, that you see the scale on page, know its a scale passage, and are able to play it.  It has all become one thing.
3.  There's a general process of learning the piece.  Learning the basic notes and rhythms, adding "higher" elements like the dynamics and articulations, polishing and shaping the piece  and adding those minute nuances in timing.    And then there's the process of learning the piece section by section if it's larger for you.


Any thoughts on this?     I'm not quite sure if this makes sense to anyone, but I wanted to get it written down before it falls out of my mind.

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[bernhard]

Yes, it makes a lot of sense.

Have a look at these threads, and let us start from there, shall we?

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2255.msg19129.html#msg19129

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1867.msg14268.html#msg14268

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2615.msg22522.html#msg22522

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3833.msg34775.html#msg34775

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Bob]

Ah..... I see you can pinpoint the exact point of the thread you link to.  Interesting.   Live and learn....

Thanks Bernhard.  I think these ideas on are track with what I have in mind.  I just need to figure out exactly what I have in mind, if I can ever do that completely.

So.....  lots of information there.

I think I'll start working on it here.

Here's what I collected from those links.

(stand up,  grunts and heaves a huge slab of messy pf info on the table)


..... hmmmmm..... Apparent the pf table here is much too small....  I've got all the info copied and pasted into a file.  I was going to post it up here and then start summarizing it, but I'll guess I'll do that on my own computer......  I guess I'll post the results when I get them....


 

[Radix]

Even shorter pieces I tend to learn section by section...maybe practice a couple of phrases at once.  Eventually, I'll combine sections to make larger ones, and then practice those individually, until all the sections are combined and the piece is whole.