Pianists and Fashion

[rubinsteinmad]

Who are some Fashion-genius pianists?


Yuja Wang and Lola Astonova seem concerned about their dresses

Oh, and can you give me a list of pianists who wear high-heels at their concerts?

[zpianist]

I wonder why you need that

Yundi Li has recently been wearing really sparkly outfits to concerts...
oh and Julian Zhi Chao Jia, I think he's invented an entirely new style of fashion altogether

[rubinsteinmad]

Why? "oh, um, for... scientific purposes......."
No one gives a sh-t about Lola Astanova though... but you're right about the "concern" for fashion... Lola Astanova has an Instagram where she posts about 5 pictures a day O_o

Yundi Li has recently been wearing really weird, sparkly outfits to concerts...
and Richard Kastle is an absolute fashion genius
oh and Julian Zhi Chao Jia, that guy... I think he's invented an entirely new style of fashion altogether

lol

But Lola Astanova was SO GOOD at age 12!

She still is, if you watch her videos with HD Audio But I don't think she improved much from when she was 12

Oh, and I WAS ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT YUNDI, but I was like, Nah.......

[rubinsteinmad]

I think Yeoul Eum Son has a good taste for choosing dresses, but she doesn't use "fashion" dresses 

Oh, and Valentina spicily uses high heels in the Prokofiev Sonata #7.

[chopinlover01]

I'd imagine that heels would make pedaling difficult.
For female pianists, you have much more options.
Male pianists are kinda limited in that sense. But I like wearing sports jackets so it's all good 

[zpianist]

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[rubinsteinmad]

I'd imagine that heels would make pedaling difficult.
For female pianists, you have much more options.
Male pianists are kinda limited in that sense. But I like wearing sports jackets so it's all good 

I think Maksim Mrvica wears weirdly.
But I don't think hes a completely "Classical" pianist.

[zpianist]

I think Maksim Mrvica wears weirdly.
But I don't think hes a completely "Classical" pianist.

Not at all.


He made a legit recording of the Liszt Ballade 2 though but it still has a few cuts in it I think):

[zpianist]

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[thalbergmad]

Yuja Wang and Lola Astonova seem concerned about their dresses

Some of Miss Wangs outfits are more suitable for the street corner outside of the concert hall.

She has cheapened the classical world by dressing up as a slag.

Thal

[visitor]

[zpianist]

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[kawai_cs]

I see you guys have not seen Khatia Buniatishvili. She always wears stunning dresses in her concerts and looks really nice and sexy. She could be a little skinnier for my taste but still hot.

Plus I loved the dresses that Kate Liu wore in her performances in Chopin competition, especially the white one. 

[zpianist]

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[kawai_cs]

I have seen her... I don't like her playing though.  It's a MESS!

Yes, that is indeed true sometimes. But ... she has such an amount of sex appeal like watch this:

that I can forgive her easily:-) And this says a woman

[thalbergmad]

I don't think any of them were that bad...
(Actually, how would I know what a prostitute wears?)

Well, until you do, you will have to defer to my superior knowledge.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

Well, until you do, you will have to defer to my superior knowledge.

Thal

So your "superior knowledge" causes you to love the Padarweski Concerto?
And your "superior knowledge" makes the Grieg Concerto a failure?  

Of course, there is nothing worse than the Schumann virus and i would rather drink camel spit than be subjected to its boredom again.

Your great intelligence impresses me greatly. 

[rubinsteinmad]

Some of Miss Wangs outfits are more suitable for the street corner outside of the concert hall.

She has cheapened the classical world by dressing up as a slag.

Thal

No, the classical world was cheap even before that.
And her wonderful playing makes up for her terrible *cough, cough, vomit* dresses.

I do think that she dresses like a homeless person, though...

[rubinsteinmad]

Plus I loved the dresses that Kate Liu wore in her performances in Chopin competition, especially the white one. 

The only dress I remember her wearing was that hideous purple dress.... ugh....

I liked Miss. Kobayashi's dress <333333

[rubinsteinmad]

oh and Julian Zhi Chao Jia, that guy... I think he's invented an entirely new style of fashion altogether

Whoa... Hold on there....
Shots fired 

[ronde_des_sylphes]

[zpianist]

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[zpianist]

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[chopinlover01]

so have you had... interactions with such people?? I'm sorry, but I believe people should have slightly more dignity than that...
or did you just live in a crappy part of town where you saw them a lot?

Could be either/or, knowing Thal
But then, it really isn't your call to judge either the patrons nor the women themselves, is it?

[outin]

Could be either/or, knowing Thal
But then, it really isn't your call to judge either the patrons nor the women themselves, is it?

Thal has referred to his use of such services on many occasions before, so lets just take his word for it

I was once almost arrested in US because I was standing on a street corner dressed in a certain way...so obviously my party dress was not in very good taste that night

[thalbergmad]

so have you had... interactions with such people?? I'm sorry, but I believe people should have slightly more dignity than that...
or did you just live in a crappy part of town where you saw them a lot?

What the hell has it got to do with dignity?

When i get the "urge", i ring up the agency and get them to send someome over and i doubt if any would be seen dead in the trash that Wang wears.

Thal.

[thalbergmad]

So your "superior knowledge" causes you to love the Padarweski Concerto?
And your "superior knowledge" makes the Grieg Concerto a failure?  

When you have reached your teens and start to become more widely listened and formulate opinions of your own, then you can debate with me on equal terms.

Whilst you are spouting general conceptions that some idiot teacher has told you, you cannot.

Thal

[ahinton]

When i get the "urge", i ring up the agency and get them to send someome over and i doubt if any would be seen dead in the trash that Wang wears.

So there's only one such agency in Le fin des Graves, then?

As to Wang, I've never seen her perform live and couldn't care less what she wears, being interested as I am only in her playing which, at best, is quite decent.

Best,

Alistair

[swagmaster420x]

When you have reached your teens and start to become more widely listened and formulate opinions of your own, then you can debate with me on equal terms.

Whilst you are spouting general conceptions that some idiot teacher has told you, you cannot.

Thal

On the contrary, I would posit that rubensteinmads opinions are every bit original as yours, if not more so because your individuality has probably been watered down by age and exposure to the worlds opinions.

[rubinsteinmad]

On the contrary, I would posit that rubensteinmads opinions are every bit original as yours, if not more so because your individuality has probably been watered down by age and exposure to the worlds opinions.

+1 YET ANOTHER SHOT THAT SHAKES THE WORLD!!!!

[rubinsteinmad]

When you have reached your teens and start to become more widely listened and formulate opinions of your own, then you can debate with me on equal terms.

Whilst you are spouting general conceptions that some idiot teacher has told you, you cannot.

Thal

Actually, I know better to not listen to other people's opinions, especially teachers'.

And my opinions on the Grieg and the Padarweski were "formulated" by myself. And it seems that they are not wrong opinions; few pianists bother to play the Padarewski, while the Grieg is cherished by the world's leading pianists.

[chopinlover01]

Cherished=/= a piece that the classically appreciative wants to hear over and over again (a la Chopin nocturne 20, 9/2, Tchaikovsky 1..).

[rubinsteinmad]

Cherished=/= a piece that the classically appreciative wants to hear over and over again (a la Chopin nocturne 20, 9/2, Tchaikovsky 1..).

That doesn't mean that the Grieg Concerto isn't cherished. Actually, and IMHO, it is cherished.

[thalbergmad]

Actually, I know better to not listen to other people's opinions, especially teachers'.

And my opinions on the Grieg and the Padarweski were "formulated" by myself. And it seems that they are not wrong opinions; few pianists bother to play the Padarewski, while the Grieg is cherished by the world's leading pianists.

If popularity were the judge of quality, i guess the Spice Girls are amongst the greatest singers ever.

I am not convinced that the Grieg is cherished by the Worlds leading pianists. Perhaps they play it because they know it will sell and perhaps they don't play the far more exciting Schytte, because they think it won't or they don't have the fingers.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

On the contrary, I would posit that rubensteinmads opinions are every bit original as yours, if not more so because your individuality has probably been watered down by age and exposure to the worlds opinions.

Similar to Visitor, my opinions are based on over 2,000 concertos listened to or played through..

Thal

[ronde_des_sylphes]

On the contrary, I would posit that rubensteinmads opinions are every bit original as yours, if not more so because your individuality has probably been watered down by age and exposure to the worlds opinions.

re Thal's opinions on concerti, that seems a very strange argument, as the world's opinion tells him to venerate the Schumann and Grieg. Unless you're going to argue his "individuality" consists of a perverse reaction to conventional opinion..

I don't mind the Grieg too much, but the Schumann.. there are hundreds of other concerti I'd rather hear.

Wait a minute, isn't this the wrong thread? 

[ahinton]

re Thal's opinions on concerti, that seems a very strange argument, as the world's opinion tells him to venerate the Schumann and Grieg. Unless you're going to argue his "individuality" consists of a perverse reaction to conventional opinion..

I don't mind the Grieg too much, but the Schumann.. there are hundreds of other concerti I'd rather hear.

Wait a minute, isn't this the wrong thread? 

The Grieg is one of the composer's least engaging pieces, for all its popularity; I once embraced deep disrespect for Grieg as a consequence of it but quite mistakenly because I knew so little of the rest of his work at that time.

Likewise, one has only to listen to the Schumann Concerto along with a few of his best works to realise what a comparatively dead duck it is ( a handful of gestures in its mniddle movement notwithstanding); Schumann not only could but did do far better than this!

Best,

Alistair

[stevensk]

O :(hh, another stupid shallow american thread. When will this stop?

[rubinsteinmad]

Similar to Visitor, my opinions are based on over 2,000 concertos listened to or played through..

Thal

No, your opinions seem to be largely focused on how famous or 'neglected' you consider a piece.

U r a true communist.

[rubinsteinmad]

O :(hh, another stupid shallow american thread. When will this stop?

Alicia de Larrocha's playing was shallow; yet she was not American.


Some of my friends think that South Koreans are pretty shallow; especially the way they get plastic surgery on their faces and on their genitals, and eat mandu with dog-meat inside.

[thalbergmad]

No, your opinions seem to be largely focused on how famous or 'neglected' you consider a piece.

U r a true communist.

You ignorant woman, what an ill informed thing to say.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

You ignorant woman, what an ill informed thing to say.

Thal

I am well informed on what communism is; my ancestors were slaughtered by them for being too rich.

And the truth is, your opinions DO seem focused on how 'neglected' you think a piece is.

[rubinsteinmad]

I am not convinced that the Grieg is cherished by the Worlds leading pianists. Perhaps they play it because they know it will sell and perhaps they don't play the far more exciting Schytte, because they think it won't or they don't have the fingers.

Thal

So you're saying that the world's leading pianists are prostitutes, and thinking that your taste is better than theirs. Also, you're looking down on the world's leading pianists as people without a technique. How ignorant.

The Schytte is an amazing concerto, though.

[thalbergmad]

So you're saying that the world's leading pianists are prostitutes, and thinking that your taste is better than theirs. Also, you're looking down on the world's leading pianists as people without a technique. How ignorant.

It is not a matter of taste dimwit, it is a matter of playing what puts bums on seats and food on the table.

Only a fraction of the Worlds leading pianists could cope with the Schytte. Ask Oleg Marshev.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

It is not a matter of taste dimwit, it is a matter of playing what puts bums on seats and food on the table.

Only a fraction of the Worlds leading pianists could cope with the Schytte. Ask Oleg Marshev.

Thal

You think too highly of youself and too lowly of the World's Leading Pianists.

[thalbergmad]

You do come up with some horsecrap, but at least you like the Schytte.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

You do come up with some horsecrap, but at least you like the Schytte.

Thal

Yes, youre right. We both throw sh!t way too much (especially me).

Are there any concerti you'd recommend the most? I really like the Schytte; it is one of the most beautiful concerti I've heard.

[thalbergmad]

I have yet to hear a better work than the Bortkiewicz and doubt if i ever will.

Now stop arguing with idiots like me and go listen.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

I have yet to hear a better work than the Bortkiewicz and doubt if i ever will.


Thal

Which one?

[thalbergmad]

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