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Offline perfect_pitch

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Needing scores to help voicing...
on: November 28, 2015, 07:12:49 AM
Greetings everyone... I'm currently looking for easy SATB type material notated on 2 staves (SA-Treble, TB-Bass, not the separate S A T B staves), preferably on IMSLP if possible. The easier the better, only because I have a student who desperately needs help with his voicing in playing chords, and I want him to try and begin to voice each part independently, and begin to cleanly play one voice over the others.

I would really appreciate any scores - nothing too 20th century, just folk tunes, melodies, whatever - but rather easy to learn for a student who is learning at about a Grade 7 level.

Thank you.

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Re: Needing scores to help voicing...
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
There's Saint-Saëns étude op. 52 no 2. An absolute killer though...but could be useful even just played very slowly.

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Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 02:23:03 PM
I would try it with Bach's chorales. My teacher used to make me voice each part as I was learning intermediate harmony. It was really helpful for me!

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Re: Needing scores to help voicing...
Reply #3 on: November 29, 2015, 01:24:25 AM
There's Saint-Saëns étude op. 52 no 2. An absolute killer though...but could be useful even just played very slowly.

I'll admit that is an EXCELLENT score and I look forward to having fun with that later, but I think for my Grade 7 student - I'm trying to help him with his voicing...

..not destroy what remains of his soul. Poor bugger wouldn't get through the first line. He's very poor with voicing and his previous teacher didn't seem to do anything to help him with it.

I would try it with Bach's chorales. My teacher used to make me voice each part as I was learning intermediate harmony. It was really helpful for me!

Ooooh... Thank you. I've just downloaded it. This will be very useful.    ;D

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Re: Needing scores to help voicing...
Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 10:32:21 PM
Greetings everyone... I'm currently looking for easy SATB type material notated on 2 staves (SA-Treble, TB-Bass, not the separate S A T B staves), preferably on IMSLP if possible. The easier the better, only because I have a student who desperately needs help with his voicing in playing chords, and I want him to try and begin to voice each part independently, and begin to cleanly play one voice over the others.

I would really appreciate any scores - nothing too 20th century, just folk tunes, melodies, whatever - but rather easy to learn for a student who is learning at about a Grade 7 level.

Thank you.


I think the perfect piece would be the short Chopin prelude op28 no 20. Half a page long, the chords may be a little complex depending on the student, but it is played at a largo tempo and it is fun to try to voice it out in different ways due to the cheesiness of the melancholy melody.
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Re: Needing scores to help voicing...
Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 06:43:14 AM
I think the perfect piece would be the short Chopin prelude op28 no 20. Half a page long, the chords may be a little complex depending on the student, but it is played at a largo tempo and it is fun to try to voice it out in different ways due to the cheesiness of the melancholy melody.

Not a bad suggestion, but with some of the notes and the fact that there's at times 6-7 notes at a time, it's a little hard for a student to follow along to. The SATB style 4 voice is a little easier as you can follow the stems easier.

But thank you for the suggestion.

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Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 06:02:57 PM
Any standard hymn book should be fine.

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Reply #7 on: December 02, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Maybe the old traditional hymn books, but I ain't religious. Thanks again for the suggestion though - if any liturgical books pass my way, I'll remember them.

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Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 05:12:55 AM
I agree with the hymn book suggestion.  It would be a good step before moving to the Bach chorales. 

This site has hymn scores that you may find useful.
https://openhymnal.org

Of course there is nothing like flipping through a book.  Be on the lookout at second hand book stores or yard sales for old hymn books.  I find them very useful for teaching.
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