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Offline musicsdarkangel

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What pianists for what composers?
on: December 25, 2004, 09:23:43 PM
I have realized that I can't think of a better pianist for Beethoven's work than Brendel.  He is incredible, and I know that I won't find another pianist who does Beethoven's work quite like him.

I have also gained enormous respect for Gould playing Bach, Arrau playing Liszt, Alexeyev playing Rachmaninoff.


What other relationships between pianists and composers can you all make?

I want to listen to it all.

Offline Nina_too

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #1 on: December 26, 2004, 03:28:27 AM
Rubinstein playing Chopin.  Especially the waltzes.  It just doesn't get any better than that, IMHO.

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #2 on: December 26, 2004, 04:38:00 AM
MY FAVORITES:

Bach: Gould

Mozart: Brendel

Beethoven: Brendel (Sonatas) Kempff (Concertos)

Schubert: Brendel or Perahia

Schumann: Kempff

Liszt: Czifra

Mendelssohn: Perahia (Concertos)  Ilse von Alpenheim (Songs Without Words)  Benjamin Frith (Sonatas and Caprices)

Chopin: Anievas and Pollini (Etudes) Pollini (Preludes) Zimerman (Ballades)  Barenboim (Nocturnes)  Zimerman (Concertos)  Zimerman  (Waltzes)

Brahms: Not sure

Saint-Saens: Not sure

Mussorgsky: Kissin

Skriabin: Marc-André Hamelin

Rachmaninov: Vladimir Ashkenazy

Hope this help.
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

--Alfred Brendel--

Offline kempff

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #3 on: December 26, 2004, 05:06:18 AM
Bach: Gould

Beethoven: Kempff, Brendel, Arrau, Serkin (sonatas and concertos)

Brahms: Kutchen, Gilels (concertos), Richter (sonatas), Kempff

Schubert: Kempff, Brendel

Schumann: Kempff, Richter

Mozart: Schiff, Brendel, Kempff

Kempff+Brendel= GOD

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #4 on: December 26, 2004, 10:09:27 AM

Bach: richter

Mozart: gilels

Beethoven: Brendel, barenboim (Sonatas) Kempff, argerich (1st, 2nd), michelangeli (5th) (Concertos)

Schubert: radu lupu

Schumann: radu lupu, lipatti, horowitz (esp. kreisleriana)

Grieg: lipatti

Liszt: Czifra

Chopin: cortot, rubinstein, kissin, argerich

Brahms: radu lupu, rubinstein (1st concerto)

Mussorgsky: richter, Kissin

Rachmaninov: richter, argerich, volodos, rachmaninov, Vladimir Ashkenazy

Prokofiev: ashkenazy, argerich, kapell

Khatchaturian: kapell

Bartok: lipatti, argerich

Offline eugene_oneg

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #5 on: December 26, 2004, 05:26:27 PM
I agree with most other people's choices. But for the following

Bach: Gould but also Tatiana Nikolayeva.

Scriabin: Sofronitzky, if you have not heard him yet listen to him you will see why.
              BTW he was son in law of Scriabin. No other than Richter said he was   a god and Gilels said he was the best of pianists. It is unsane how poetic this man was.

Schubert: Sofronitzky. There is such a direct expression in his playing.

Chopin: I would add Rachmaninov to the list. Cortot's interpretation is very inspirational. I personally dislike Rubinstein's rubato in Chopin. His timing leaves something off the music especially in the Waltzes and Mazurkas.

Hummel: Steven Hough

Mozart: I forgot her name... she was swiss, and there is an internationnal piano compretition named after her. Unfortunately there is not much recording of her....oh yes.. Clara Haskil.

Rachmaninov: himself (despite what he said). but also other people mentionned.

Beethoven: Brendel, Arrau, Kempff, Perahia.












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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #6 on: December 26, 2004, 08:30:55 PM


Rachmaninov: himself (despite what he said). but also other people mentionned.

















what rachmaninov said?

Offline cziffra777

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 02:50:05 PM
Bach: Richter, Feinberg
Beethoven: Schnabel, Levy
Chopin: Francois, Sokolov, Cortot
Liszt: Cziffra, Levy, Horowitz
Mozart: Horzowski
Rachmaninoff: Richter, Horowitz, Argerich
Scarlatti: Horowitz
Scriabin: Sofronitsky

Offline shasta

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #8 on: December 28, 2004, 03:37:18 PM
Saint-Saens:  Pascal Roge

Ravel:  Ivan Moravec

Albeniz:  Alicia De Larrocha

Ives:  Marc-Andre Hamelin

Granados:  Alicia De Larrocha

Lecuona:  Thomas Tirino

Confrey:  Eteri Andjaparidze

Ginastera:  Martha Argerich or Eduardo Delgado
"self is self"   - i_m_robot

Offline zemos

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #9 on: December 28, 2004, 08:32:28 PM
Bach - Gould.
Haydn- Gould.
Mozart- Brendel.
Beethoven - Brendel (&Zimerman for the concertos).
Schubert - Schiff/Brendel.
Chopin - Ashkenazy/Zimerman.
Liszt - Zimerman.
Brahms - Ashkenazy.
Rachmaniniov - Horowitz.
Debussy - Gieseking.
Prokofiev - Ashkenazy.
Bartok - Kocsis.
Shostakovich - Shostakovich (hehe)/Gould.

As you can see, most of the names repeat themselves at least twice. It's just that when I like one pianist's interpretation for a piece, I'll probably like his interpretation for all the pieces of the composer, and many times I also like his performance for some other composers because he's really good...
It's not that I like these and only these, but they are my favorites (:...
Too bad schubert didn't write any piano concertos...

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #10 on: December 29, 2004, 04:03:31 AM
MY FAVORITES:


Skriabin: Marc-André Hamelin

Rachmaninov: Vladimir Ashkenazy


Sorry! Although there are some matches in this list I'd argue, these two are ones where I'd really highly disagree. Although I highly respect Hamelin in some repertoire, IMO he understands nothing in Scriabin--he just completely lacks type of pianism and musicianship Scriabin demands.
Same goes for Ashkenazy and Rachmaninov. I'd say Ashkenazy plays Rachmaninov the way how one should not play Rachmaninov.

Offline donjuan

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #11 on: December 29, 2004, 06:02:28 AM
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Offline redhead

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #12 on: December 29, 2004, 06:17:37 AM
Bach:  richter, gould
Beethoven: richter
Schubert: richter
Chopin (sonatas): kapell
Liszt (sonata):  richter, watts
Scriabin: lane, richter
Rachmaninov: richter
Ravel (gaspard): pogorelich
Prokofiev: richter


Can any guess who my favorite pianist is?   :)

Offline m

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #13 on: December 29, 2004, 06:21:02 AM

Rachmaninoff - Hofmann...

Just wondering if you mean Josef Hofmann? The only recording of Rachmaninov I know of him recorded is Prelude in C# minor. If it is so, it is really hard to judge from one this piece how he played Rachmaninov.

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #14 on: December 29, 2004, 06:23:13 AM
Bach:  richter, gould
Beethoven: richter
Schubert: richter
Chopin (sonatas): kapell
Liszt (sonata):  richter, watts
Scriabin: lane, richter
Rachmaninov: richter
Ravel (gaspard): pogorelich
Prokofiev: richter


Can any guess who my favorite pianist is?   :)

Barenboim? :o :o :o

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #15 on: December 29, 2004, 06:24:20 PM
Ligeti!!!-Aimard
Lutoslawski (concerto)-Zimerman
Schoenberg-Gould/Pollini
Brahm's (1st concerto)-Gould...no joke
Bach-Gould
Rachmaninoff-(concertos) Gould!...jk...Rachmaninoff...duh?!
Schumann-(Carnaval op. 9) Rachmaninoff and Myra Hess in second...
Grieg-(concerto)Samson Francois
Ravel-Samson Francois
Debussy-Gieseking
BEETHOVEN- (drum roll please.....................) GOULD....
Haydn-......GOULD!!!
Scarlatti-Michelangeli or Pletnev....
Chopsticks-Liberace ::) :P :-X :-\ :'( >:( ;) ::)

that's all for now...

DLu


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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #16 on: December 31, 2004, 12:51:40 AM
Ligeti!!!-Aimard
Lutoslawski (concerto)-Zimerman
Schoenberg-Gould/Pollini
Brahm's (1st concerto)-Gould...no joke
Bach-Gould
Rachmaninoff-(concertos) Gould!...jk...Rachmaninoff...duh?!
Schumann-(Carnaval op. 9) Rachmaninoff and Myra Hess in second...
Grieg-(concerto)Samson Francois
Ravel-Samson Francois
Debussy-Gieseking
BEETHOVEN- (drum roll please.....................) GOULD....
Haydn-......GOULD!!!
Scarlatti-Michelangeli or Pletnev....
Chopsticks-Liberace ::) :P :-X :-\ :'( >:( ;) ::)

that's all for now...

DLu




may i add:

Bach and Scarlatti: Wanda Landowska

Offline ehpianist

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #17 on: January 02, 2005, 08:40:43 PM
Arrau for  Beethoven

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #18 on: January 03, 2005, 04:29:29 AM
Bach: Gould
Beethoven: Brendel
Chopin: Rubenstein
Mozart: Leygraf (I was at a magical concert with him when i was young that altered my view on Mozart completely!)


Then there's lots of other pianists i like, but maybe not associate with a composer in the same way as the above.

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #19 on: February 26, 2005, 09:39:14 PM
Hello, I´m a new member of this forum, I´ve been reading all the replies, and it has been very interesting, now I ´m looking forward to listen several recordings! And I have to say that I completely agree with ANDA, it´s like I would read my own reply, and maybe I would add :

For Chopin Op.25 #6:  Josef Levine
Any kind of  piano transcriptions: Cyprien Katsaris

(I don´t know if he is known in USA, but in Mexico there are several recordings)
Music should not be "Ur-text" , it should be "Ur-spirit"            
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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #20 on: February 26, 2005, 10:09:56 PM
Rachmaninov and Scriabin: Bernd Glemser (young German pianist - having heard the music, I have to say that his music has to be appreciated).

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #21 on: February 27, 2005, 03:37:58 AM
Chopin: Im gonna have to go with Rubenstein and Zimerman
Bach: Gould
Liszt: Czifra NOT ASHKENAZY  and Arrau indeed plays the S*** out of Liszt, who i have not heard anyone mention yet?! unless i misread!
Ginastera: Delgado
Rachmaninoff: Horowitz in first (who was told by Rach himself that he (hor) played his music better than he did himself) then Horacio Gutierrez who also, has not been mentioned!
Scriabin: I am again going to say Horowitz and John Ogden (who also plays the hell out of THe Busoni concerto and his Variations on the chopin C minor prelude, Rach 2nd sonata, and some Alkan) who i AGAIN! have not heard mentioned.
Beethoven: Richard Goode then Brendel


 

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #22 on: February 27, 2005, 02:36:39 PM
Scriabin-Horowitz
Chopin-Yundi Li, Horowitz
Beethoven-Fleisher (concerti)
                -Schnabel (sonatas)
Bach- Chen Pi-hsien (Goldberg)
Mozart- Emanuel Ax (chamber music)

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #23 on: February 27, 2005, 05:55:16 PM
Brendel is good, but it's ashame that Philips pushed back other artists in order to promote him.   Anyway:

Beethoven: Gilels for whatever he recorded; Fleisher for concertos
Mozart: Gieseking, Haskil, Annie Fischer, Curzon
Bach: Angela Hewitt, Tureck
Chopin: Rubinstein; Horowitz; Dinu; Moravec; Martha; Perahia; Joao Pires
Schubert: Lupu, Richter, Curzon
Brahms: Gilels for concertos; Lupu for solo
Rachmaninov: Horowitz, Martha; Janis; Kocsis
Debussy: Gilels;
Schumann: Haskil, Perahia, Lupu, Horowitz, Martha, Rachmaninov (Carnaval)
Liszt: Horowitz, Bolet

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Re: What pianists for what composers?
Reply #24 on: March 02, 2005, 01:40:35 AM
Bach - Gould
Mozart - Horowitz, Perahia
Beethoven - Gilels
Chopin - Lipatti
Liszt - Cziffra, Ashkenazy
Debussy - Michelangeli
Ravel - Pogorelich

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