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Offline kurzya

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Chopin/Mozart
on: March 25, 2016, 10:02:09 AM
My teacher has suggested that I enter a small competition that's coming up in a few weeks as a chance to solidify my performance of the Chopin nocturne op 9 no 2 and Mozart sonata kv 309. However, the time allowed in the competition is not long enough, and to play both I will enter the non competitive section too.
So: my predicament
Do I play the first movement of the Mozart in the non competitive and the Chopin in the competitive? Or vise versa? Both pieces are extremely comfortable. What would you recommend? Does one seem more suitable for a category compared to the other? I realize that neither are particularly showy competition pieces, but this is mainly a chance for me to perform and gain new feedback.
Any recommendations would be muchly appreciatedl!!
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Offline piulento

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 02:21:09 PM
I'd pick the Mozart, because the Chopin is really, really, really overplayed. Also, the Mozart is more impressive if played well. If you want, you can upload yourself playing to get more informed answers.

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 02:37:56 PM
i'd get a list of of what other competitors played in the past and also what the winners and high place contestants brought.  if you can play both equally well, but your list shows no chopin nocturnes or to a lesser extent vs fast first sonata movements or Mozart, then there's your answer.
 
weight the above against which piece you play the best and enjoy playing more, if you can line that up w/ the above criteria, that sets you up for success

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 07:01:13 PM
Do you prefer Tuesday or roast beef?  The two pieces are very very different.

On the whole, though, if you feel your technique is up to it, the Mozart may be the better competition piece.  The Chopin is, to my mind problematic -- precisely because a) it is played a great deal, and frequently with a good degree of technical skill and b) it is rarely played, except by very mature, very fine pianists, with anything even remotely approaching the level of emotional involvement and control which it demands.

I disagree with piulento in this -- if played with the depth of emotion and control which is in the piece, the Chopin is far more impressive; there is much more depth to it.  If played without, though...
Ian

Offline briansaddleback

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Do you prefer Tuesday or roast beef? 
I prefer Tuesday. I can live a full life without roast beef if I had to choose.
Work in progress:

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Offline louispodesta

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 11:01:00 PM
My teacher has suggested that I enter a small competition that's coming up in a few weeks as a chance to solidify my performance of the Chopin nocturne op 9 no 2 and Mozart sonata kv 309. However, the time allowed in the competition is not long enough, and to play both I will enter the non competitive section too.
So: my predicament
Do I play the first movement of the Mozart in the non competitive and the Chopin in the competitive? Or vise versa? Both pieces are extremely comfortable. What would you recommend? Does one seem more suitable for a category compared to the other? I realize that neither are particularly showy competition pieces, but this is mainly a chance for me to perform and gain new feedback.
Any recommendations would be muchly appreciatedl!!
I don't offer my services as a teacher, but I do as a coach.  Specific to this website, I offer it for free, and I always have.

Regarding your question, the first thing you should think about is that why did your teacher link performance experience with playing in a competition?  The last time I checked, there was something called Studio Class, as well as Group Recital.

However, today any prominent piano teachers earning ability is directly related to how their student perform in competition.  This broaches the question as to what is your goal?

Do you want to become a pianist/musician or do you want to please your teacher and win gold, bronze, and silver medals.  Are the two the same?  No, they are not.

As a pianist/social activist philosopher, I know a great deal about pathways.  And, that is the path you are being advised to follow.

Accordingly, my advice is directly related to the associated grief of this "small competition."  There are many other avenues wherein you can gain valuable performance related experience.

Please contact me by PM if you desire further guidance.  Good luck to you.

Offline mjames

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
I prefer Tuesday. I can live a full life without roast beef if I had to choose.

golden rules of relationship #34:
Never over-compliment a specific meal provided by your woman, because there's a good chance you'll be eating it 3 days a week for the rest of your life.

best,

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Offline kawai_cs

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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 01:54:01 AM
Oh, and my golden rule of relationship #34 says: serve Gourmet Dippings (pieces of sausage served with two kinds of dippings: ketchup and mustard).
Next time he will insist to dine out ;D
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Re: Chopin/Mozart
Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 02:11:51 AM
Oh, and my golden rule of relationship #34 says: serve Gourmet Dippings (pieces of sausage served with two kinds of dippings: ketchup and mustard).
Next time he will insist to dine out ;D

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