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Harriet Tubman on the $20 (Read 928 times)

Offline chopinlover01

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Harriet Tubman on the $20
« on: April 23, 2016, 08:55:35 AM »
The U.S. Department of the Treasury announced recently that Andrew Jackson, a president now better known for his signing of the Indian Removal Act which later led to the Trail of Tears, is being put on to the back of the twenty dollar bill. He will be replaced by Harriet Tubman.
What do you all think?
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #1 on: April 23, 2016, 02:54:57 PM »
I for one will like the change. I spent two hours last night reading about her, because I didn't remember too much about her, then there would be a link to something I didn't know much about, read that, another link. . . A person can sure avoid piano practice by reading compulsively online.
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #2 on: April 23, 2016, 03:33:12 PM »
Andrew Jackson is high on the list of men that oppressed relatives of my ancestors.  My ancestors escaped the big racial purge of 1820 and the removal from the eastern mountains to the dry west, but lived in such poor land as a result that I have many "island" effects.  Small size, late growth,  probably an adaptation to scarcity of carbohydrates in the Appalachian mountains. We had plenty of nutricious food, but I was 38" tall & 42 lb at age 8 1/4 start of 3rd grade. My poor father was bullied oppressively in school, but found a school for me that was very under control of staff. Many thanks.  Extreme intelligence and lightning fast reaction time were compensating traits of my surviving family, necessary to make a living under such stress.  My reaction time eye/hand was tested at 56 ms.
MS Tubman comes from one of the similarly oppressed peoples. About time to recognize one of them.

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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 07:25:25 PM »
there's so many butthurt racists not happy about her being one the dub lol
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #4 on: April 24, 2016, 11:23:00 AM »
dont really care. x3
I know "there are bigger problems" is a fallacy but cmon, there are bigger problems.


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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #5 on: April 24, 2016, 01:08:44 PM »
I like it :)
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #6 on: April 24, 2016, 05:16:16 PM »
dont really care. x3
I know "there are bigger problems" is a fallacy but cmon, there are bigger problems.


It's still nice to get a guy who ethnically cleansed Natives off our currency.
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #7 on: April 24, 2016, 05:19:14 PM »
It's still nice to get a guy who ethnically cleansed Natives off our currency.


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They should also return to reinforcing secular values by removing the "in god we trust" from...every single federal/public context!

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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #8 on: April 28, 2016, 03:14:14 PM »
It's great that Harriet is being put on the $20 bill. Finally, we have a woman on our dollabillz, and a black woman at that! ;D

I may sound like I'm nitpicking, but I think they should have removed Andrew Jackson from the bill entirely. While I don't hate the man, he did own 150+ slaves, and I think putting him on the same bill as someone who fought their entire life to free not only herself, but hundreds of others, is a bit disrespectful to her legacy. Of course, he also so infamously passed the Indian Removal Act, so Jackson wasn't the kindest to minorities. 

Jackson did do some abhorrent things, but he also did some pretty great things such balancing the budget and paying off the national debt. He stood up to Calhoun and South Carolina when they threatened succession. As a president, Jackson has pros and cons, but I think he should be relocated to the back of another bill to honor Harriet Tubman and what she stood for.

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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #9 on: April 28, 2016, 09:00:52 PM »
true
They should also return to reinforcing secular values by removing the "in god we trust" from...every single federal/public context!


Thanks, Cold War
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #10 on: April 29, 2016, 08:24:29 AM »
true
They should also return to reinforcing secular values by removing the "in god we trust" from...every single federal/public context!


I have to disagree on this. Although I believe in a separation of church and state, school-wise(as in I don't think creationism should be taught), almost all of the Founding Fathers were Christian, so I think this phrase it fine on coins, as it honors their ideals. I mean is this phrase really oppressive to atheists?

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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #11 on: April 29, 2016, 04:49:02 PM »
Most all of the founders were Deists.
The phrase was only added to the money during the Cold War, to separate us from the "Godless" Communists. Same with the pledge.
It's not oppressive so much as it is favoritism. The govt isn't allowed to endorse religion over nonreligion, or any particular religion over another religion.
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #12 on: April 29, 2016, 06:29:33 PM »
i didnt say anything about being an atheist, I'm a muslim! (Praise be to Allah!)

anyways it doesn't matter if the founding fathers were christian, it's still a secular state, therefor religious favoritism shouldn't be endorsed by the government. ;]

"In God We Trust" is just a symptom of a larger problem. Here's your "secular" state:
1. You're highly unlikely to become a high ranking politician if you don't publicly endorse the christian god, and you'll definitely never become a president if you're anything but a Christian. Hur, maybe bernie might change this.. :D
2. Religious institutions being exempted from taxes and in some cases they're publicly funded. :D
3. Creationism being taught as alternative in public schools in various regions.
4. Anti-evolutionist politicians LOL.


"In God We Trust" and "God Bless America  ::)" symbolizes a larger problem that's plaguing the United States, and removing these symbols imo is the first step to de-christianizing the United States.

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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #13 on: April 30, 2016, 12:09:02 AM »
Andrew Jackson is high on the list of men that oppressed relatives of my ancestors.  My ancestors escaped the big racial purge of 1820 and the removal from the eastern mountains to the dry west, but lived in such poor land as a result that I have many "island" effects.  Small size, late growth,  probably an adaptation to scarcity of carbohydrates in the Appalachian mountains. We had plenty of nutricious food, but I was 38" tall & 42 lb at age 8 1/4 start of 3rd grade. My poor father was bullied oppressively in school, but found a school for me that was very under control of staff. Many thanks.  Extreme intelligence and lightning fast reaction time were compensating traits of my surviving family, necessary to make a living under such stress.  My reaction time eye/hand was tested at 56 ms.
MS Tubman comes from one of the similarly oppressed peoples. About time to recognize one of them. 
   SORRY to read the bad things that happened to your family and "tribe".  There should really be no racial discrimination, but rather recognition of the uniqueness of each group, their culture, talent and character. They say politics sometimes results in strange bedfellows .... and now it seems the US currency too.  Jackson and Tubman on the same note?  The "Oppressor" and the "Oppressed"?

there's so many butthurt racists not happy about her being one the dub lol 

One nice way of looking at it! ;D ;D
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Re: Harriet Tubman on the $20
«Reply #14 on: April 30, 2016, 06:41:24 PM »
The U.S. Department of the Treasury announced recently that Andrew Jackson, a president now better known for his signing of the Indian Removal Act which later led to the Trail of Tears, is being put on to the back of the twenty dollar bill. He will be replaced by Harriet Tubman.
What do you all think?

I only care about the numbers on each corner.. I'll take a stack of Harriets over a stack of Abrahams any day