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Offline xire

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Hello everyone,


I recently learned Scriabin Preludes Op.16 No.1 and Op.15 No.4. Since I'm deeply fond of the serene atmosphere both pieces entail, I'm now looking for similar pieces to add to my repertoire. Any suggestion is welcome and it doesn't matter from which composer; well known or less known, everything is welcome. :)

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Thanks in advance and looking forward to your suggestions!
xire

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
I'm learning Scriabin op.31 preludes now, the first one in D flat probably has the qualities you like. Late romantic Russian serenity. It even has a bizzare jazz inflection after some daring modulation.
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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 06:02:02 PM
I'm learning Scriabin op.31 preludes now, the first one in D flat probably has the qualities you like. Late romantic Russian serenity. It even has a bizzare jazz inflection after some daring modulation.

Many thanks for your suggestion!

Just listened to Op.31 No.1 and it definitely has the atmosphere I'm looking for. Might add it to my repertoire. :)

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 06:38:23 PM
lots going through my mind here,  sorting through it but i'll start w immediately, Kletzki comes to mind. Op. 4 No 2 (starts at 2:17)

*three is not bad either, but mainly thought of 2

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 06:29:42 AM
lots going through my mind here,  sorting through it but i'll start w immediately, Kletzki comes to mind. Op. 4 No 2 (starts at 2:17)

*three is not bad either, but mainly thought of 2

Never heard this music before, sounds interesting after the first listen. Many thanks for your suggestion!

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 08:53:36 AM


Those leaps are cray to do with the left hand, especially 5 from the end of the first piece. Alexandrov has quite an output I'd recommend checking out. Some really fantastic sonatas.



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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 10:15:02 AM
Never heard this music before, sounds interesting after the first listen. Many thanks for your suggestion!
this is a special area of interest for me (Scriabinists so to speak :) so the list of similar pieces can , is, and should be rather long. My love of these is only shared (volume and time dedicatded to study wise by Jazz /classical hybrids and written out improvisations) Most of these are not recorded to best of my knowledge.
luckily Sabeneyev is, good number of the early op numbers  fit the bill probably

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 10:40:43 AM
this is a special area if interest for me so the list of similar pieces can , is, and should be rather long. Most are not recorded.
luckily Sabeneyev is, good number of the early op numbers  fit the bill probably
Sabaneyev is a such a great discovery. Much like Feinberg in that he has an astounding output which is barely touched (good thing Schafer does such a wonderful job).

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #8 on: May 05, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
Sabaneyev is a such a great discovery. Much like Feinberg in that he has an astounding output which is barely touched (good thing Schafer does such a wonderful job).
indeed. there's a treasure trove of ignored music out there, luckily for us, the kids at labels such as Tocatta are focusing efforts on bringing these back out. lots of exciting releases of previously unrecorded music in past few years and many pending /coming soon.

one cd i am sourcing is for long time favorite of mine, Roy Agnew, his music is probably the closest thing to a continuation of his middle period style (my favorite of Scriabin output, don't care as much for every early/romantic stuff as much as i love the middle stuff).

Agnew is actually sometimes coined the "Australian" Scriabin. One listen to the prelude audio clips here
https://www.australianmusiccentre.com.au/product/retrospect-pre-war-australian-piano-miniatures#

for 1 2 3  and 4 and you'll see/hear why.

for OP nos 1 2 and 4 i think are the closest in style to what you asked.

cannot wait for my cd of this to arrive some previous library loan requests were denied by holding institutions i think due to rarity of the album but i have another source i'm sniffing out now.

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #9 on: May 05, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
this is a special area of interest for me (Scriabinists so to speak :) so the list of similar pieces can , is, and should be rather long. My love of these is only shared (volume and time dedicatded to study wise by Jazz /classical hybrids and written out improvisations) Most of these are not recorded to best of my knowledge.
luckily Sabeneyev is, good number of the early op numbers  fit the bill probably


Big thanks for turning that to my attention, i had no idea that so much Sebaneyev is recorded, much less exists. It's not on imslp, I thought he wrote sparingly. Has the Sonata been professionally recorded? The fellow on YouTube did a brilliant play through but it wasn't an actual recording.
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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #10 on: May 05, 2016, 04:17:20 PM
Frank Hutchens had  a similar slant/sound, slightly more impressionism flavor but enough modernity and uniqueness to make it interesting. I  have liked everything I ever heard from him
to OP, has a somewhat similar calm feel to it like earl slow Scriabin preludes, although perhaps leans more Delius than Scriabin in this particular piece, others more Alex minded.

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #11 on: May 05, 2016, 05:00:49 PM
this is a special area of interest for me (Scriabinists so to speak :) so the list of similar pieces can , is, and should be rather long. My love of these is only shared (volume and time dedicatded to study wise by Jazz /classical hybrids and written out improvisations) Most of these are not recorded to best of my knowledge.
luckily Sabeneyev is, good number of the early op numbers  fit the bill probably



Frank Hutchens had  a similar slant/sound, slightly more impressionism flavor but enough modernity and uniqueness to make it interesting. I  have liked everything I ever heard from him
to OP, has a somewhat similar calm feel to it like earl slow Scriabin preludes, although perhaps leans more Delius than Scriabin in this particular piece, others more Alex minded.


Unfortunately I can't play these videos; I get some kind of 'error' that says the video isn't available. I've tried different browsers to open these, but to no avail.  :(

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 05:08:44 PM

Unfortunately I can't play these videos; I get some kind of 'error' that says the video isn't available. I've tried different browsers to open these, but to no avail.  :(



Yes, I am the same. They used to work for me but stopped a few months ago. If you have spotify you can still find those videos there -- that's what I do.

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #13 on: May 05, 2016, 05:29:37 PM
you likely are encountering a regional filter-block. you can google some work arounds, there's lots of solutions and discussions ranging from easy to advanced/hard on fixing that.

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Reply #14 on: May 06, 2016, 09:57:43 AM
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if some of that style of Scriabin harmonic planning took root with a Brahms texture, you'd sorta get an idea of what that Kornauth sound is like. It works. well. Kudos for Powell to recording these (and the recent releases for other ignored greats on Toccata label)


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Reply #16 on: May 07, 2016, 11:26:26 AM
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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #17 on: May 13, 2016, 03:24:25 PM
Decided to record Scriabin's Prelude Op.16 No.1:

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Re: Pieces similar to Scriabin Preludes Op. 16/1 and Op. 15/4
Reply #18 on: May 22, 2016, 01:42:15 PM
Very nice, but too much reverb, although this piece can take quite a bit of that.
I like these pieces too.

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