Liszt Wilde Jagd part 2 MAJOR W.I.P.

[pencilart3]

I slapped on the recorder for personal feedback but heck why not let ps do the trick instead? This performance is so bad but people have been asking for the 2nd half so here it is. OMG this is so hard. But my reputation here can't get much worse anyway so let's try it


P.S. YES I BLEW IT SO BADLY AT THE END ARGHHHH!!!!

[briansaddleback]

You do pretty dang good

[kawai_cs]

Brian is right.  You are doing great, wow! It sounds so hard and you are doing so well. I am glad you blew the end and thus showed that it was actually played by a human being  

[briansaddleback]

Brian is right.  You are doing great, wow! It sounds so hard and you are doing so well. I am glad you blew the end and thus showed that it was actually played by a human being  

He probably put that in there intentionally so he wouldn't receive hate replies for doing a perfect job

[pencilart3]

Brian is right.  You are doing great, wow! It sounds so hard and you are doing so well. I am glad you blew the end and thus showed that it was actually played by a human being  

Thanks! Haha I blew so many spots but the end was so bad I laughed when I heard it. Hopefully hearing the result of my hours and hours and hours spent on it, and producing this crap makes you appreciate the recordings of vadym kholodenko and evgeny kissin

@Brian haha yeah I'll go with that XD

you guys are awesome thanks and I am 100% open to constructive feedback

[pianoworthy]

It's really truly not that bad. Just keep it slow and consistent like that, and don't speed up faster than you can handle. This piece actually doesn't sound that bad at slower speeds

[adodd81802]

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[kawai_cs]

I'm not familiar with the piece itself, so I listened to yours first before listening to professional recordings.

Personally you've labelled it accurately, it's a WIP, which puts my brain at ease (we've both heard some "completed" performances on these forums not even played at half tempo!), you're under no illusion that this is not yet ready even for an amateur performance. (although as a competition winner, can we still consider you an amateur?! )


I'm not going to try and break down different versions and compare them or pick yours apart piece by piece, I have neither the knowledge or experience to do so on this particular piece.

As you know it so well, it's easy for you to feel like it is worse than it is, to pick up on every little detail, which is definitely a good thing. To hardcore die-hard Liszt fans they may laugh with you at the parts you consider terrible. However, apart from the ending, with no prior knowledge, I listened to your performance without questioning probably 90% of it, so it was convincing never the less.

It sounds like the only thing left to work on this piece just requires patience, working on efficiently moving around the piano, knowing the piece fully and minimizing any unnecessary movements. It's going good so far.

Adodd, if we go ahead and start comparing your recordings, mine, snd others posted here we shall cone to what conclusion lol?

Edit: comparin to professional recordings

[adodd81802]

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[pencilart3]

It's really truly not that bad. Just keep it slow and consistent like that, and don't speed up faster than you can handle. This piece actually doesn't sound that bad at slower speeds

Thanks I completely agree it doesn't sound that hard at slower speeds. Keyword sound. Actually I find it gets almost no easier due to several factors which I can explain later if you want.

I'm not familiar with the piece itself, so I listened to yours first before listening to professional recordings.

Personally you've labelled it accurately, it's a WIP, which puts my brain at ease (we've both heard some "completed" performances on these forums not even played at half tempo!), you're under no illusion that this is not yet ready even for an amateur performance. (although as a competition winner, can we still consider you an amateur?! )


I'm not going to try and break down different versions and compare them or pick yours apart piece by piece, I have neither the knowledge or experience to do so on this particular piece.

As you know it so well, it's easy for you to feel like it is worse than it is, to pick up on every little detail, which is definitely a good thing. To hardcore die-hard Liszt fans they may laugh with you at the parts you consider terrible. However, apart from the ending, with no prior knowledge, I listened to your performance without questioning probably 90% of it, so it was convincing never the less.

It sounds like the only thing left to work on this piece just requires patience, working on efficiently moving around the piano, knowing the piece fully and minimizing any unnecessary movements. It's going good so far.

Oh man then you're in for a treat this piece is one of my favorites ever (favorite etude certainly) when played by a pro. I may as well post a pro on my thread seeing as I put others through this torture by posting pros on their thread XD

Favorite interpretation...

Faster interpretation...

Haha yes I am still a complete amateur/noob when it comes to piano. So much to learn still!! You are too kind Thanks adodd

[piulento]

Although you still have a technical way to go, you definitely have the right idea about how it should sound (if I listen to a recording with mistakes and still get goosebumps it means you're doing something right).
I really like the dynamics and the voicing.
If you keep practicing it'll be just fine (I can't imagine how frustrating it can be to learn a piece as difficult as this, but eventually it's totally gonna be worth it).

[pencilart3]

Thank you sir for that kind, encouraging, insightful comment. I sure hope it will be worth it

[ronde_des_sylphes]

There's lots of positives about it - there are moments of good musical phrasing - but in the long run this may prove very useful to your technical development, because it clarifies which areas need work. Your octave jumps are not, despite your earlier post, the main problem. I don't think you're very comfortable with some of the descending chordal execution where it's going through descending inversions, and you need a meatier sound, imo, in the marcato-type interlocking passages. I also notice at the 6/8 near the end the quasi-arpeggios are slow and unfluid, in fact it doesn't sound, albeit on the crappy speakers I'm currently using, that you're playing what Liszt wrote in the rh. His expression of the arpeggio is, in effect, a cheat version of arpeggios which enables you to go very rapdily indeed through them by dint of the enforced substitution on the root of the arpeggio. WIP, of course, so my comments are more for your consideration than by way of me trying to put the performance down.

Oh, and btw, even Kissin isn't note-perfect.. for example at the bottom of that horrendous descending rh chord run on the last page (which he really manages quite some velocity on) he hits FA in the rh

[pencilart3]

in fact it doesn't sound, that you're playing what Liszt wrote in the rh.

Oh my gosh you are right! Holy cow where did I get what I am playing?! What is written is actually easier. Thanks for pointing that out And yeah that very last run is so hard, he plays it extremely fast and yes I noticed that failed note. There was another place he missed a note also. I definitely prefer Kholodenko though he missed multiple notes. Thanks for all the advice I will consider it carefully