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Re: Buying a grand...
«Reply #150 on: July 20, 2016, 05:27:01 PM »
i get you. i have had stretches of a whole work week and very little pratice with many days in a row of not at all, part of being a grown up I suppose.  But I don't adult very well so i try to cram something in. I would suggest on those days you feel like not practicing at all, sit down, 10-15 minutes tops, and just read through or play through some or all of what you are doing, not necc practice , but expose yourself to it, I have found sometimes i get a bit refreshed and actually practice a little and play for more than i planned, other times I just hit my mark for min time reading through and call it good.

there's a saying, which i hate, that goes , miss a day of practice, you'll notice, miss two days and your teacher/prof will notice. miss 3 days others/the public will notice  :o  so when it's really bad i'm trying to make sure i don't let >2 days go by with no practice/playng whatsoever and if it's defcon 5, then i'll will make myself just read through, you'll reinforce a few things or at least not let them slip in the other direction...

It usually works fine for me to tell myself I'll just play for 5 minutes because if I can drag myself to the bench, then I will always spend at least an hour because I find something interesting to do...but I just cannot make myself get up from the couch today. I also missed my morning practice because I slept too late and didn't have time...I don't like this time of the summer, it always drains all energy from me and I get all kinds of aches  >:(

A few days really hasn't made much difference on my playing, sometimes I feel it just gets better from a little break... maybe it only works that way of one is good to begin with :)

EDIT: After I wrote that I got mad at myself, went to the piano and practiced for almost an hour  ;D

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Re: Buying a grand...
«Reply #151 on: July 20, 2016, 08:25:56 PM »
Micro managed practice and little one or two day setbacks are about meaningless. You can take the summer off and get it back in a relatively short time actually. Consistency is key though, over the long haul. A day here or there is nothing.  Now not getting off the couch, that could get bad ? Gee how would I know ?!
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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«Reply #152 on: July 21, 2016, 03:12:51 AM »
Micro managed practice and little one or two day setbacks are about meaningless. You can take the summer off and get it back in a relatively short time actually. Consistency is key though, over the long haul. A day here or there is nothing.  Now not getting off the couch, that could get bad ? Gee how would I know ?!

I did get up, finally :)
But this morning is bad, I can hardly walk and my wrists ache. Not from playing but cyckling a lot. I really need a better bike...I just hate shopping...except for pianos of course :)

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«Reply #153 on: July 21, 2016, 08:54:53 AM »
I did get up, finally :)
But this morning is bad, I can hardly walk and my wrists ache. Not from playing but cyckling a lot. I really need a better bike...I just hate shopping...except for pianos of course :)


Cycling with  any distance involved requires core strength. The only way to build core strength in cycling is to cycle. One summer some time ago when I took up cycling after decades away I slowly built myself up to about 11 miles a session. One day my daughter ( before she blew her back out) wanted to ride to Woods Hole, double the distance. I did it OK but then the rest of the day I was dead. But yes you should be fit to a proper bicycle not just grab some discount store thing and get on it and go. I own two bikes, one is my canal runner, my spring get fit bike and my fishing bike, the other is a true road bike. And right now for the last week I've been on antibiotics for an old hernia flare up ( the doc didn't want the mesh that is in there to get infected), so I've been off my bikes for a couple of weeks here and sitting on the couch !!!

Another thing people over look when cycling is proper hydration.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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«Reply #154 on: July 21, 2016, 09:03:56 AM »
cycling does put quite a load on the hands and wrists.  how the handlebars and grips are set up makes a considerable difference, and from some recent test rides, the bikes that have an upright position, more weight directly over the pedals (some now are semi-recumbent, the legs pushing a bit forward and down), take a lot of stress off the wrists and thumbs.

you have a lovely family, from the photo.  our large male feline likes sprawling across the top of our grand, but is not fond of the sound of it being played.  luckily for both of us he spends most of his waking hours outside.  just from reading about it, the summers in northern latitudes sound tiring for the majority of folks accustomed to resting at night.  have been night oriented myself since very young and have little trouble sleeping at mid day or surviving with naps ; it was the winters that affected me much more in somewhat northerly states in the u.s., nothing in the lower forty eight of course like the Baltic states or scandinavia or alaska.

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Re: Buying a grand...
«Reply #155 on: July 21, 2016, 11:53:30 AM »
cycling does put quite a load on the hands and wrists.  how the handlebars and grips are set up makes a considerable difference, and from some recent test rides, the bikes that have an upright position, more weight directly over the pedals (some now are semi-recumbent, the legs pushing a bit forward and down), take a lot of stress off the wrists and thumbs.

you have a lovely family, from the photo.  our large male feline likes sprawling across the top of our grand, but is not fond of the sound of it being played.  luckily for both of us he spends most of his waking hours outside.  just from reading about it, the summers in northern latitudes sound tiring for the majority of folks accustomed to resting at night.  have been night oriented myself since very young and have little trouble sleeping at mid day or surviving with naps ; it was the winters that affected me much more in somewhat northerly states in the u.s., nothing in the lower forty eight of course like the Baltic states or scandinavia or alaska.

My bike was supposed to be just temporary, just like my upright  ;D
I had a very good one that was stolen 2 years ago. I needed something fast to drive to work (which is less than 2 km) so I just picked up something cheap. Lately I have started to make longer trips again and this one is no good for me...

I have 3 more cats actually...but they are all the same colour so you probably wouldn't know the difference :)

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Re: Buying a grand...
«Reply #156 on: July 22, 2016, 12:01:57 AM »

But this morning is bad, I can hardly walk and my wrists ache. Not from playing but cyckling a lot. I really need a better bike...I just hate shopping...except for pianos of course :)
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«Reply #157 on: July 22, 2016, 06:40:47 AM »
But I prefer this:



I am struck by the similarity of our pianos and their position in the rooms. I have found the corner position excellent for recording. I imagine the sound must, to some degree, bounce off the walls, producing a richer effect.

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«Reply #158 on: July 22, 2016, 02:27:01 PM »
I am struck by the similarity of our pianos and their position in the rooms. I have found the corner position excellent for recording. I imagine the sound must, to some degree, bounce off the walls, producing a richer effect.

It will be interesting to try recording with a grand, which is a new experience for me. There are so many more options than with my upright...

So is there an acoustic benefit in storing stuff under a grand? :)

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«Reply #159 on: July 22, 2016, 02:36:38 PM »
It will be interesting to try recording with a grand, which is a new experience for me. There are so many more options than with my upright...

So is there an acoustic benefit in storing stuff under a grand? :)
all joking aside, not only is it a great place to store tons of music one may not have shelf space for (you and i being score hoarders this is a handy thing). But if you store with the right stuff or place sound dampening materials under it, it can help w/ volume control, ie pillows on top of storage or boxes, etc. :)

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«Reply #160 on: July 22, 2016, 05:24:02 PM »
all joking aside, not only is it a great place to store tons of music one may not have shelf space for (you and i being score hoarders this is a handy thing). But if you store with the right stuff or place sound dampening materials under it, it can help w/ volume control, ie pillows on top of storage or boxes, etc. :)
If you happen to have a bunch of cats, it's not such a good idea to store scores there though...one of mine has developed a fetish for Scriabin... He steals the scores and they end up looking like this:



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«Reply #161 on: July 22, 2016, 09:12:06 PM »
So is there an acoustic benefit in storing stuff under a grand? :)

Not as far as I know, I am just lazy and untidy.
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«Reply #162 on: July 22, 2016, 09:52:50 PM »
It will be interesting to try recording with a grand, which is a new experience for me. There are so many more options than with my upright...

So is there an acoustic benefit in storing stuff under a grand? :)

I'd be wanting to use two mics. You can look up recording software and articles for that matter that will describe mic positioning. In my software I use AB positioning a lot on my digital. Obviously I'm not actually setting up mics with the digital but the resemblance is as if I had set it up this way.

Decades ago I tried recording my grand, it was a basic over all disaster, FWIW. I do much better on the digital using either Pianoteq software or Mixcraft software. Either way it ends up Pianoteq sounds in Mixcraft anyway for final adjustments. I'm 100% sure that without spending more than I want to spend for recording on my grand, that I do better recordings on the digital. IMO, you really need some decent equipment to do justice to the sound of a real live grand piano, as well as just about perfect tune of the instrument or it sounds plain old shabby/terrible. And again IMO, two decent quality mics placed in any different number of configurations.  It's a hobby/en-devour/vocation, all it's own ! IMO. But then that's totally my opinion, others are free to feel as they wish.

Now I love my grand but if I was going to record a real grand piano's worth of my music, I'd be headed off to Boston to a recording studio I think. Better yet off to Arizona to Piano Haven's studio.
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«Reply #163 on: July 23, 2016, 02:35:19 AM »
Considering the quality of my playing I think I'm fine now with the equipment I have. I already hear a big difference between what I got from my upright (loud bass and lame middle register). And I did not check the recording levels or anything. My recordings are just to record where I am as a student and to hear what needs improvement :)

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«Reply #164 on: July 23, 2016, 02:53:33 AM »
Not as far as I know, I am just lazy and untidy.
That was me before the cats took over the place...I do miss the times when I could just leave things laying around and they would be there intact the next time I needed them. I guess I compensate at work, my office is a disgrace  ;D