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Offline jeremyjchilds

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #50 on: September 07, 2005, 08:24:46 PM
If playing FI at age 11 normal, then Im about 5 years worth of study behind.

As for Jeremy .

BIG FAT LIAR

It's a different Jeremy....I'm not a liar...
"He who answers without listening...that is his folly and his shame"    (A very wise person)

Offline thierry13

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #51 on: September 07, 2005, 08:47:05 PM
For the sake of keeping pollution down, I finally have to say something:

1. There are people who were able to play Rach3 at age 13 (whatever "play" might mean in this context). Get over it!

2. What effect does it have when people claim that they can do this or that on forums such as this one? None, whatsoever. These discussions will not help any reader overcome any obstacles they might be having with their pieces at the moment, or make the world a better place. The only positive effect I can see that such a claim might provide is some kind of questionable motivation ("What, you can play Rach3 at age 13?? I'm gonna show you, I'll play the OC at age 15, and I'm gonna memorize it in two days!!).

So, instead of wasting your breath, the Internet's bandwidth and everybody else's time (because we have to make an effort to ignore this childish stuff), go out and help each other become better pianists by offering solutions to problems.

By the way: when I was ten, I could stand on my head, recite Homer's Odyssey, in Greek, play two games of chess, blindfolded, juggle four balls (quite difficult when standing on one's head), and whistle Mahler's First Symphony backwards, all at the same time!

What, you call me a big fat liar? You suck!


I wouldn't tell you're a liar. I would ask you how you can stand on your head, and stand (assuming with your feets) on semeones head at the same time. I would have to ask if you have two mouths, to be able to recite Homer's odyssey and whistle a piece at the same time  ;D

Offline pianohopper

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #52 on: September 07, 2005, 11:33:46 PM
No one is calling xvimbi a liar.  No one is calling jeremyjchilds a liar.  I only called Jeremy C. a liar, because he still, i might add, has not posted a lick of solid fact to back him up.  I would expect Sean Bennett would be able to back up his statements, besides.  Not just empty boasts. 

Is a quest for the truth really wasting people's time? 
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Offline hodi

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #53 on: September 08, 2005, 02:22:23 AM
Thierry and Jeremey can be very good friends


u know what i mean?

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #54 on: September 08, 2005, 02:35:20 AM
Thierry and Jeremey can be very good friends


u know what i mean?

Go away Hodi. Don't begin another fight.

Offline mig

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #55 on: September 10, 2005, 06:43:05 AM
He might have played it, but many can't believe it without a proof. It's completely normal. Bring us some solid proof and we'll believe.

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #56 on: September 10, 2005, 07:36:09 AM
Where I live a 15 year old won the big city symphony youth piano competition, playing this infamous Concerto #3 in D minor by Sergei Rachmaninov. A few months before this I was an adjudicator of a solo competition where her repertoire included Ravel's Ondine, Ginastera's Sonata #1 and  Bach's Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue. A little Argerich  :D !
 
A few years back I heard a 17 year old play this piece in a competition.

xvimbi is right. It is not impossible for a 13 year old to play something that difficult, it happens every day. At age 11 Kissin was playing the Chopin e minor, and I believe Agustin Anievas performed the Rachmaninov 2nd at the age of 12, but I could be mistaken about that.... :-\


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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #57 on: September 10, 2005, 07:54:59 AM
Where I live a 15 year old won the big city symphony youth piano competition, playing this infamous Concerto #3 in D minor by Sergei Rachmaninov.

Hmmmm, was she a Xu Fei's student, and was it in Arizona?
Then two of my former students played in the same competition Rachmaninov no. 1 and Saint-Saens no. 2.

One of my other students won a few competitions there. At age 14-15 in his repertoire were Chopin Etudes op. 10 no. 1, 7, 8, Chopin Schezo no. 1, Liszt Rhapsodies no. 6 and 12, Beethoven Sonata no. 3, Ravel Scarbo, Prokofiev Concerto no. 3. Needless to say, anything he played, pianistically was just perfect.
Now he is studying at university, doing majors in astro-physics, math, and computer-science, and minor in piano performance.

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #58 on: September 10, 2005, 07:44:36 PM
Hmmmm, was she a Xu Fei's student

                                                 Yes
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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #59 on: September 10, 2005, 09:18:51 PM
P.S.  Mound and Viking --- you are both from Rochester?  So am I!   8)

Actually Im from central Canada.  I flew to Rochester through Toronto.  Rochester sure is a beautiful city though!
SAM

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Reply #60 on: September 10, 2005, 10:34:54 PM
Actually Im from central Canada. I flew to Rochester through Toronto. Rochester sure is a beautiful city though!
SAM

I don't think you'd say that if you spent more time here!   ;)
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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #61 on: September 17, 2005, 05:07:56 PM
im with piano hopper on this one. people have misread him. he does not rule out blindly that the rach3 cannot be played at 13, but he simply looked at the way this jeremyC has posted in the forums bragging lots of stuff and he simply seems to me like one of those attention seeking people who need to lie to make themselves feel better.

Offline Dazzer

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #62 on: September 17, 2005, 05:27:12 PM
haha...

oh well i'll just give up piano now...

and life while i'm at it. :D

Offline stevie

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #63 on: September 17, 2005, 06:05:46 PM


arent you guys going off topic?

Offline arensky

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #64 on: September 18, 2005, 06:47:58 AM
If it isn't the famous 'arry  Potter .....

er, Shostakovich..?
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Offline pianohopper

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #65 on: September 21, 2005, 02:33:20 AM
I can play most of the first movement of the Rach3.  cough, here look:;



That's most of it, isn't it??? 
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Offline Waldszenen

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #66 on: September 21, 2005, 04:11:52 AM
*big cough*
Fortune favours the musical.

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #67 on: September 21, 2005, 10:13:39 AM
I can play most of the first movement of the Rach3.  cough, here look:;



That's most of it, isn't it??? 

How to break this to you.... (Ahhhhh, never mind....  ::))   ;D

Offline sergei r

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #68 on: September 21, 2005, 10:55:23 AM
Where I live a 15 year old won the big city symphony youth piano competition, playing this infamous Concerto #3 in D minor by Sergei Rachmaninov. A few months before this I was an adjudicator of a solo competition where her repertoire included Ravel's Ondine, Ginastera's Sonata #1 and  Bach's Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue. A little Argerich  :D !
 
A few years back I heard a 17 year old play this piece in a competition.

xvimbi is right. It is not impossible for a 13 year old to play something that difficult, it happens every day. At age 11 Kissin was playing the Chopin e minor, and I believe Agustin Anievas performed the Rachmaninov 2nd at the age of 12, but I could be mistaken about that.... :-\




Oh crap, I need to get working then...
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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #69 on: September 21, 2005, 01:52:32 PM
Just thought I'd join it and get the flame going, while I think Rach 3 at 13 like Sgouros is absof**kinglutely incredible, FI at 11 is not that amazing.  in fact, 2 of my students have done it at 9 and 10.

I even have this video of this little kid playing FI which I downloaded from somewhere.  if anyone is interested i can upload it

Offline rohansahai

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #70 on: September 22, 2005, 01:13:26 AM
How about rach3 at 11 and chopin 1 at 6? A friend of mine did it !
Waste of time -- do not read signatures.

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #71 on: September 22, 2005, 01:17:41 AM
How about rach3 at 11 and chopin 1 at 6? A friend of mine did it !

What a cool kid  ;D What age did he began ? 4-5 ??

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Re: Rach 3!
Reply #72 on: September 22, 2005, 01:59:24 AM
How about rach3 at 11 and chopin 1 at 6? A friend of mine did it !

That kid must have had abnormally large hands to play the Chopin1 at six.  Or started playing piano when he was -10 years old? 

(You were just joking, right?)
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