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Offline peeinbush

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Prokofiev 2 and 3
on: June 20, 2016, 02:49:27 PM
Can someone help me rank the 7 movements of Prokofiev piano concertos 2 and 3 in order of difficulty? Thanks!
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Re: Prokofiev 2 and 3
Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 03:03:09 PM
yes they are all a difficulty level of 10 on a ranking of 1-10 with 10 being the most difficult

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Re: Prokofiev 2 and 3
Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
Kind of a question is this? XD If you're at the level to play these then your first instinct should be to look at the score, work through it, and decide whether or not you have the chops. Prokofiev 2: A piece Argerich refuses to play in public

There comes a point in piano playing when the idea of "grades" becomes nonsense.

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Re: Prokofiev 2 and 3
Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 04:39:15 PM
Kind of a question is this? XD If you're at the level to play these then your first instinct should be to look at the score, work through it, and decide whether or not you have the chops. Prokofiev 2: A piece Argerich refuses to play in public

There comes a point in piano playing when the idea of "grades" becomes nonsense.

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Re: Prokofiev 2 and 3
Reply #4 on: July 29, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
Sooner or later this question had to come up.
As already sakd. Totally useless.
Richter never played them, nor the Rach 3. Does this mean he cannot. Hmmmmm....
Virtuosity you have in all kinds. Take the Mendelssohn concertos, and hear Cyprien Katsaris, a hugely neglected super pianist, and you will think this mans fingers come from another planet.
Velocity, llegato, to perfection.
Prokofiev is a russian attack ln the keyboard.

But is all this music. Can you play it in the way music is born. That is the real question.
Schnables quote "Mozart too easy for young kids, too difficult for concert pianists".
That says it all.
Any real music has scale 10 if you want.
And in the volume of 3000 pages piano music in french, in 2 volumes there are lots of tens.

Prokofiev scores because it has lots of bravoure.
But Liszts bravoura in his time was as big as Prokofievs.

Remember Katsaris who relived the Liszt-Tsjaikovsky concerto, and made many arrangements as composer, too phenomenal difficulty if that is what you want.

Richters almost 1 hour D960 by Schubert is as difficult, as no one can keep so focussed and play all repeats...
And so on.
Argerich is right. But she could exchange her Schumann concerto for another one cause it becomes a bit too much. Rach 3 Martha ?

Bozhanov, making the rules of the Chopin competition change to rule him out, is another Gould rebel.
Never had an old lady heard someone play like Michelangeli in the 20 years she assisted the concours.
Or longer.
We do must break geniusses he, cause they are jealous. Argerich should have shouted as she did for Pgorelich. Bozhanov was another case.
I hope he makes it, and give them all a lap around the ears, to make them listen.
10+....
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