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Offline maplecleff1215

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on: August 19, 2016, 09:17:15 PM
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Offline huaidongxi

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Re: Yamaha P-45 or P-115?
Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
methinks you can find a shop to test play either or both of the yamaha keyboards.

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Re: Yamaha P-45 or P-115?
Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 09:34:11 PM
I have tried both, but I'm trying to see what other people who might have more knowledge of digital pianos would recommend

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 10:31:07 PM
if you played the 115 and weren't completely satisfied, continue to try others.  the next portable digital on my list to test play is a kawai and it's in your price range.  from the specs and features most of the other models that were comparable retail for over $1k.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 11:38:54 PM
I did enjoy the P-115, but then again, i enjoyed all of the ones that I tried. xD Probably because I'm not at a high enough level to really feel a difference. As for statistics though, the P-115 seems okay.  I haven't tried or seen any Kawais, but if I find one, I'll definitely try it out. Thanks!

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 11:51:32 PM
because my experience includes dozens of acoustic pianos and a very small handful of digital ones, my body will be prejudiced toward the machines that feel and respond closest to normal pianos.  my needs don't include lots of instrument simulations, multitracking, recording.  you probably have different preferences, but the more you try, the better you will feel about your decision.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 04:55:15 AM
spent enough time with the kawai ES 100 this afternoon to resolve my quest for a portable with acceptable touch/response and sound. a different user might prefer a louder amplifier and speakers, but it will be just a portable practice board for me.  there are two historical temperaments available on it to alter the tuning, and the kirnberger III the kawai has (it also offers werkmeister III) results in very sweet sounding major triads in the white keys.  the bonus of visiting the store was my beloved spouse becoming enamoured with a restored 1910 upright which would make a nice housemate for her seven foot 1919 vintage grand.  won't expect it to be on the market by the time we can afford it.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 05:40:24 AM
Don't buy online unless you've personally played the digital in a store before.
Just don't do it.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
Don't buy online unless you've personally played the digital in a store before.
Just don't do it.

When you shop in a bricks-and-mortar store then buy on line to get it cheaper, you have two problems.
1.  Integrity
2.  Sooner or later you are part of forcing all the bricks-and-mortar stores out of business.

Don't take up their time unless you have intention of buying. 
Tim

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 12:25:25 PM
When you shop in a bricks-and-mortar store then buy on line to get it cheaper, you have two problems.
1.  Integrity
2.  Sooner or later you are part of forcing all the bricks-and-mortar stores out of business.

Don't take up their time unless you have intention of buying. 

While I will never buy  a music instrument online ( or clothing)  I will use the online to find the price to negotiate with the brick and mortar. There is a great value to being able to try before you buy so even paying a little more at the brick and mortar is ok since we know what we are getting.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 09:47:55 PM
When you shop in a bricks-and-mortar store then buy on line to get it cheaper, you have two problems.
1.  Integrity
2.  Sooner or later you are part of forcing all the bricks-and-mortar stores out of business.

Don't take up their time unless you have intention of buying. 
You can use the online prices to barter with them, ending up with roughly similar prices in many instances.
And besides, most "bricks and mortar" stores, as you've called them, don't sell digitals; that's mostly at places like GuitarCenter or other national music stores.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 01:11:20 AM
my shopping experience in a large metropolitan area with lots of music shops, the guitar center chain store had many electronic keyboard types and brands (how they stay in bidness with such an unruly and costly inventory might be a dark tale), but not kawai, but it was available in a high end piano store.  no surprise, the staff at guitar center can not be relied on for a reasonable demo of the keyboards they sold, but the piano shop people were a different breed altogether.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 05:42:17 PM
Don't buy online unless you've personally played the digital in a store before.
Just don't do it.

I agree. I definitely wouldn't buy anything like an instrument online. Especially instruments because you really need to have a feel for it yourself first. I have tried out the p-115 a couple times.

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Re: Yamaha P-115?
Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 05:43:37 PM
While I will never buy  a music instrument online ( or clothing)  I will use the online to find the price to negotiate with the brick and mortar. There is a great value to being able to try before you buy so even paying a little more at the brick and mortar is ok since we know what we are getting.

I've seen the P-115 at two stores and seen a few online prices, and they're all at or very close to $600
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