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Offline elis_piano

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Which Concerto?
on: August 22, 2016, 05:28:18 PM
Hi! I play pieces like: Rachmaninoff moment musical op. 16 n 4, prelude in c sharp minor, Chopin polonaise op 26 n 2, nocturne op 48 n 1, revolutionary etude, Beethoven moonlight sonata (I+III), pathetique (I), op 2 n 3 (I) and tempest (I+III). Which Concertos would you reccomend me to start with?
Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 05:55:21 PM

-Oh, its like "what shall I eat today?", "which book should I read next?".
Ok, play Mozarts first pianoconcerto. Continue whith his second

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
you are asking about a collaborative work but only listed a few solo pieces. what accompanying and chamber works have you played? are you using a 2nd piano to learn it and will that be the extent or do you have connections to an ensemble, discussion w /the conductor and accompanist are important, some concerti are ok until you try to put them together since the orchestra may struggle or synchrony may just be difficult and making the work as a whole harder that just what the piano part seems, some may be easier than the score might suggest as well.
but given you listed solo pieces, here is a solo arrangement I absolutely love.



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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:11 PM
-Oh, its like "what shall I eat today?", "which book should I read next?".
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better than my first 'knee jerk response".... which i stopped myself but your reply was hilarious, so I must play too  ;D
https://bfy.tw/7KtC

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to OP if something a little longer is in order
this could work

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 06:19:37 PM
you are asking about a collaborative work but only listed a few solo pieces. what accompanying and chamber works have you played? are you using a 2nd piano to learn it and will that be the extent or do you have connections to an ensemble, discussion w /the conductor and accompanist are important, some concerti are ok until you try to put them together since the orchestra may struggle or synchrony may just be difficult and making the work as a whole harder that just what the piano part seems, some may be easier than the score might suggest as well.
but given you listed solo pieces, here is a solo arrangement I absolutely love.





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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 06:21:33 PM

Thank you for your answer!
I am a student and I only asked for your opinions.. I have 1 year to decide.. it's too early, I just ask for opinions.. I haven't even talked with my teacher.. I'm just wondering..
I will play with a second piano..
chamber music: Saint-Saens: sonata for clarinet, Tartini didone abbandonata, Milhaud suite for clarinet, violin and piano and duo concertante for clarinet and piano.

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
uhh... i don't even know how to use this... and i noticed that there is a "student's corner" so, I'm sorry...

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Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 06:46:35 PM
uhh... i don't even know how to use this... and i noticed that there is a "student's corner" so, I'm sorry...

Sorry if I was a little bit harsh. Now, If you want to play with others, well I suppose you are when you asks for pianoconcertos. However, I strongly recommend that you start with something smaller. Have you tried to accompanying an instrumentalist or a singer. Lots of singers are asking for a pianist. Even instrumentalists. -What about a pianotrio?Have you tried it?

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 06:57:29 PM
Sorry if I was a little bit harsh. Now, If you want to play with others, well I suppose you are when you asks for pianoconcertos. However, I strongly recommend that you start with something smaller. Have you tried to accompanying an instrumentalist or a singer. Lots of singers are asking for a pianist. Even instrumentalists. -What about a pianotrio?Have you tried it?


Don't worry, and thanks for your answer..
i have played Darius Milhaud: suite for piano, clarinet and violin, Duo concertante for clarinet and piano, Tartini: Didone Abbandonata, Saint-Saens: sonata for clarinet and piano.
Also, it isn't that i WANT to play a piano concerto, but i HAVE to play a piano concerto for my degree exams..
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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 07:46:11 PM


Don't worry, and thanks for your answer..
i have played Darius Milhaud: suite for piano, clarinet and violin, Duo concertante for clarinet and piano, Tartini: Didone Abbandonata, Saint-Saens: sonata for clarinet and piano.
Also, it isn't that i WANT to play a piano concerto, but i HAVE to play a piano concerto for my degree exams..
:)

-Ok. -So your school has an orschestra available?

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 07:47:48 PM

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-Ok. -So your school has an orschestra available?

No.. i will play with a second piano..

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 08:52:11 PM

No.. i will play with a second piano..

-I suspected that. -So whats the point whith a pianoconcert? -Ok, that question should be addressed to your teatchers/school management, I know, but isnt it somewhat stupid? :(

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Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 09:12:03 PM

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-I suspected that. -So whats the point whith a pianoconcert? -Ok, that question should be addressed to your teatchers/school management, I know, but isnt it somewhat stupid? :(

Yes, I agree with you...
The conservatory hasn't a large enough orchestra.. We have only a small ensemble..
But the law says that i must play a piano concerto in order to graduate..
Since I can't change the law, i just have to do stupid things :) This happens almost in all conservatories of my city..

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 10:06:31 PM
Go with a classical concerto to start with is a good common wisdom to follow, as to not overwhelm yourself with piano-orchestra relationship.
Mozart's are nearly all approachable (some slow movements even sight readable), so they're good picks. Beethoven is also approachable with his first 3 concerti, just not the last two (and the third is still quite difficult).
Good luck!

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Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
Go with a classical concerto to start with is a good common wisdom to follow, as to not overwhelm yourself with piano-orchestra relationship.
Mozart's are nearly all approachable (some slow movements even sight readable), so they're good picks. Beethoven is also approachable with his first 3 concerti, just not the last two (and the third is still quite difficult).
Good luck!

Thank you for your answer!
How about Grieg's piano concerto?

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
I'd stay away from it and most of the other Romantic concertos (Grieg is mid to late romantic), as it is quite technically difficult in many areas (and this is one of those pieces that really needs a more upbeat tempo to work well, I think). Also, it's played to death.

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Re: Which Concerto?
Reply #16 on: August 23, 2016, 12:20:27 PM
I'd stay away from it and most of the other Romantic concertos (Grieg is mid to late romantic), as it is quite technically difficult in many areas (and this is one of those pieces that really needs a more upbeat tempo to work well, I think). Also, it's played to death.


Rumor has it that it is an easy concerto, this is why i asked..
Thanks for your advice!
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