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Offline Bacfokievrahms

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Looking for pieces that
on: January 06, 2005, 08:55:54 AM
have heavy amounts of "play with fist" sections or "play with forearm" sections or "flip open/close the piano lid" sections.

Offline anda

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #1 on: January 06, 2005, 06:34:21 PM
i pity your piano - i couldn't do that to mine  :'(

Offline allchopin

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 09:53:52 PM
Look into Rzewski's North American Ballades for some whole-arm action; I believe Qu Xiao-song: Ji #3 Silent Mountain has some odd stuff in it.  John Cage has a lot of bizarre piano works including those for prepared piano.
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Offline m1469

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #3 on: January 06, 2005, 10:06:08 PM
(yay... good thread... I am interested too... aggression, aggression  :)!)
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Offline Vivers

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #4 on: January 07, 2005, 02:22:09 AM
There's the "Birds 2" collection by Seymour Bernstein. There's playing with the entire forearm, fist clusters, and at the end, you get to slam the piano lid down. It doesn't work so well on hydraulic lids though.

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #5 on: January 07, 2005, 06:30:07 PM
i write you a ballade - just tell me, except for fist and forearm - anything else you should like to use?  ;D

Offline Radix

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #6 on: January 07, 2005, 06:58:38 PM
Sounds like what Ben Folds would play!  ;D

Offline Bacfokievrahms

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #7 on: January 08, 2005, 07:29:38 AM
i write you a ballade - just tell me, except for fist and forearm - anything else you should like to use?  ;D

was thinking about sliding a fax machine across the 2 octaves surrounding middle c?

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #8 on: January 08, 2005, 12:41:33 PM
have heavy amounts of "play with fist" sections or "play with forearm" sections or "flip open/close the piano lid" sections.

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Offline anda

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #9 on: January 08, 2005, 09:44:11 PM
was thinking about sliding a fax machine across the 2 octaves surrounding middle c?

you've got to be kidding - that's not an acceptable sound!  ;D

now, if you said you'd put your handy phone sing bach g chorale (alcatels do that) meanwhile, perhaps...

Offline amanfang

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #10 on: January 08, 2005, 10:17:24 PM
Cowell uses a lot of forearm clusters.  I played Exultation and really liked it.
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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #11 on: January 09, 2005, 08:17:43 PM
how about string-playing? (of course, marks on)

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 12:07:22 PM
look into George Crumb and Gyorgy Kurtag.

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #13 on: January 10, 2005, 06:28:31 PM
Yeah, Cowell and Crumb are the cats you should look into. Two of Cowell's most well-known works are "The Banshee" and "The Aeolian Harp", both of which involve playing inside the piano almost exclusively. Most of his other works also consist of lots of large clusters, using forearms or blocks of wood. Check out a piece by Cowell called "Tiger" for one example of forearm smashing fun.

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Offline puma

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #14 on: January 11, 2005, 06:57:55 AM
   I wish I had a nice grand so I could play the Aeolian Harp...I only have a spinet in an enclosed space, so I can't play it <sigh>  Then again, most people don't even have a piano in their homes so I shouldn't really complain.

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Re: Looking for pieces that
Reply #15 on: January 14, 2005, 05:17:01 PM
If you what to go a bit more conventional. Prokoffiev 6th sonata first mvt has 'con pugno'. The Rautavaara etudes are all fearsome in this regard as is his first concerto. Crumb 'Makrocosmos' uses extrended technique. C Ives concord sonata has some clusters. Thats all for the moment ::)
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