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Topic: Bach French suite ornament? (Read 3243 times)

heroine

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Bach French suite ornament?

on: October 07, 2016, 05:44:42 AM

Hi everyone,I have a question here,I recently noticed in Rcm level 8,there's a minuet n trio in French suite no.3.as I know there are so many interpretations,some of the pianist just play the mordent optional,some just skip all of the trills.

My question is,how do u play the last note on m.36? Do we consider it as a modent so we just plat it as BCB? Or consider it as a trill so we hv to play like CBCB?

Thanks in advance

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iansinclair

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Re: Bach French suite ornament?

Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 12:56:35 PM

Quote from: heroine on October 07, 2016, 05:44:42 AM

Hi everyone,I have a question here,I recently noticed in Rcm level 8,there's a minuet n trio in French suite no.3.as I know there are so many interpretations,some of the pianist just play the mordent optional,some just skip all of the trills.

My question is,how do u play the last note on m.36? Do we consider it as a modent so we just plat it as BCB? Or consider it as a trill so we hv to play like CBCB?

Thanks in advance

I am sure you will get different opinions -- but I have always treated ornaments in Bach and before as starting on note above or below the centre note. The ornament may be short -- a turn or mordent -- or long -- a trill. The ornament is played on the beat, not before, and is played in time rather than free.

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heroine

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Re: Bach French suite ornament?

Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 04:21:50 AM

Thank you.but it's a rcm exam piece,I have no clue how to play these for the exam so I contacted Rcm n see how they reply

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haydnseeker

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Re: Bach French suite ornament?

Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 05:00:02 PM

Not all editions have the ornament.

Piano Street Urtext has it, the scanned version doesn't. My Peters copy doesn't have it.

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