Rich Lipp & Sohn Grand Piano

[jullies]

Hello I have a Grand Piano manufactured by Lipp & Sohn. I have searched everywhere but cannot find any serial number. I can see a stamped 913 on the soundboard and also a plaque saying "J. Keller & co", (see attached) but no number. Any ideas on where to look?
 

[hfmadopter]

On grands it's not so uncommon to find the SN stamped or burned into the underside of the key bed, requiring just looking up under the piano, maybe with a light, but directly below the keys or action. It's not always a tag you are looking for.

[jullies]

Thank you.  I eventually found the number 913 again but under the "body", ie had to crawl in under the piano. But it does only say 913 and is not a 6 digit number like those listed in tables showing the age of a piano. Is there any other way to find out the age?

[huaidongxi]

excuse the stereotype but as a culture Germans over the most recent centuries have been excellent record keepers.  in the past have found information on smaller German makers on sites based over there (auf Deutsch, natuerlich).  Lipp & Sohn was well known with a very good reputation, try e mailing dealers there who work with vintage pianos.  there's often better knowledge on German makers in the UK as well, relative to the u.s.a.

[richard black]

Keller was almost certainly the dealer who sold the piano. That looks surprisingly recent for a Lipp - the wood all looks relatively new. Anyway, it's a good make.

[huaidongxi]

J.Keller of Stuttgart manufactured piano actions.  if their label has a number, they did not follow a chronological sequence, according to www.pianohistory.info/numbers.html