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- Yamaha CF7, 1989? or late 80's? Made in Europe-Closest thing to it? Steinway? (Read 1624 times)

Offline pianoplayerstar

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Firends - which is the closest Steinway model to this Yamaha Grand CF7 made in the late 80's European made?  Model B? O? D?

.. or is there another brand that has that same "buttery, soft, feel" with the rich sound and tone of the Yamaha CF7.

Please don't respond:  "All pianos are different" or "you have to try them" - these responses aren't helpful.

The closes model I can get is the Steinway model D?  But I don't want to spend 100k on a piano

I'd like some helpful detailed responses, please?

Thank you very much
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Pianos are not the same and with used one really must spend time playing the various candidates to see what one likes in their budget and selection criteria

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Perhaps the response "all pianos are different" and "you have to try them" aren't helpful?  But, my friend, if you are in the market for a piano in this class -- especially if you are even thinking about a Steinway D -- you would be, not to put it to gently, out of your mind to buy a piano without trying it and falling in love with it.  There are several pianos in the class with the Steinway D.  Bosendorfer.  Bechstein.  Fazioli.  Estonia, to mention four.  The big Yamahas are almost as good.  In older used pianos, the Baldwin concert grands are well regarded.

Unless you just want a classy piece of furniture...
Ian

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Baldwins?!!!?

Really?   I never knew that.

Please do tell more.

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Baldwins?!!!?

Really?   I never knew that.

Please do tell more.
i have performed on the big baldwin sd10 and loved it. Always liked them as much in many cases and in some cases more than american steinways.
One of my dream piano is the sf10 , i mean wow, slinky renner action, incredible power and balance  and range of tone quality, easy to control and doesnt let up when you really whail and lay into it.
Stay away from new baldwin post gibson if are are loking for american old school well made.
Baldwin L are fabulous home instruments with deep dark and warm sounds


Used.shigeru. that would probably end the game, if you go japanese, and can actually find one, hint they are difficult to score used because people absolutely adore them and simply dont unload them onxe acquired, still, hands down my top no 1 pick for a piano in the sub 100,000k range and honestly i feel they give the ultra high tier instruments a run for the money, i have liked shigerus more than many pianos costing twice  or more.
If you are considering something in the 6 footer range you would also do well to seek out a charles walter they are also on my hit / wish list

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Why look for all these other pianos if the CF7 is the goal ? I think if you went out and played others though, you would find the finer points of each on their own merit and ones you just plain don't like as well. But 'if" a CF7 is the goal, go look for one. And incidentally, it may or may not be the same as the one that enamored you !

Baldwin ? Yes, and Ian said "older Baldwins", that is the key. If they are like a CF7 is another matter.  If they are like any other piano also is another matter. Ian said they were well regarded and I agree.

My personal favorite big grand piano ? C.Bechstein.  Not that I don't like others. Shigeru Kawai is another. Steinway D is in my top pick as well. I couldn't afford any of them, nor have the space for them but they are favorites for sure.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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i have performed on the big baldwin sd10 and loved it. Always liked them as much in many cases and in some cases more than american steinways.
One of my dream piano is the sf10 , i mean wow, slinky renner action, incredible power and balance  and range of tone quality, easy to control and doesnt let up when you really whail and lay into it.
Stay away from new baldwin post gibson if are are loking for american old school well made.
Baldwin L are fabulous home instruments with deep dark and warm sounds


Used.shigeru. that would probably end the game, if you go japanese, and can actually find one, hint they are difficult to score used because people absolutely adore them and simply dont unload them onxe acquired, still, hands down my top no 1 pick for a piano in the sub 100,000k range and honestly i feel they give the ultra high tier instruments a run for the money, i have liked shigerus more than many pianos costing twice  or more.
If you are considering something in the 6 footer range you would also do well to seek out a charles walter they are also on my hit / wish list

very good info; thank you;
Shigeru's? it seems costly
baldwin's sf10 or sd10, i just checked are around the same price as a c5 or c7, isn't it? used.

as to shigeru's, if the're 100k range, might as well get a steinway, no?

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very good info; thank you;
Shigeru's? it seems costly
baldwin's sf10 or sd10, i just checked are around the same price as a c5 or c7, isn't it? used.

as to shigeru's, if the're 100k range, might as well get a steinway, no?
new shigeru will have a premium especially becuase Kawai will fly the artisan-technician that built your piano to your home for a final fine tuning and reguluation. it's anorth american market perk.

used is the way to go, they age well especially if cared for. I have seen here and there and SK2 or SK3 used in the 34-40K range. that sounds about right, i think an sk3 new will run you into the upper 80's k, not sure on the new price of an sk2, maybe mid 65-69K?

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new shigeru will have a premium especially becuase Kawai will fly the artisan-technician that built your piano to your home for a final fine tuning and reguluation. it's anorth american market perk.

used is the way to go, they age well especially if cared for. I have seen here and there and SK2 or SK3 used in the 34-40K range. that sounds about right, i think an sk3 new will run you into the upper 60's-70k, not sure on the new price of an sk2, maybe mid 50's?
if i had the cash i'd prolly pull the trigger on that sweet sk3 for 25k if it checked out. 3 really solid deals on ebay right now in 25-36k range

as expected you'll save if you go w private sale vs a dealer, pretty sure that's where the big price discrepancy comes from. no way i'd pay more for an sk2 in similar condition froma dealer than a minty sk3 from a private seller, again if checked. out. the atlanta sk has been for sale for a while, i'd call it a motivated seller