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Offline dorfmouse

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Scarlatti Recording?
on: January 10, 2005, 08:27:18 AM
I'm looking for a recording of Scarlatti's Sonata in B minor, K 27, preferably piano not harpsichord. I can't find a CD with this particular piece.

Alternatively, if you have played this piece what sort of tempo do you take? I've only heard a fairly awful midi version which sounds like a machine gun! I feel it should be lilting and lyrical but would appreciate any ideas on interpretation.  It looks easier than it is, for me anyway ... sigh!
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Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 08:59:50 AM
I'd recommend Michelangeli and Zhu Xiao-Mei of this particular sonata (Zhu's is tougher to find I guess). As for the tempo, ABM is more like Presto and Zhu is some-what Allegro - a tempo I much preferred.

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 05:52:16 PM
I like the Michael Lewin's record for Naxos. Rhythm is impressive.  Look  here:
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 05:57:18 PM
Sorry for the bad link. It is the Naxos Volume 2 of the Scarlatti's Complete Sonatas collection.  I'll try it again with the link:
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 05:39:23 AM
Thank you so much. Will investigate!
"I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 05:35:41 PM
I believe this is the favourite Scarlatti sonata of our dearest Prof. Bernhard. I also allow myself suggest the Sonata K99, which it seems to me similar in many aspects, very beautiful, and with a deep spanish mood.

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 08:48:49 PM
Thanks again. Another to add to the list ... life isn't long enough for Scarlatti, at least at my  rate of learning!
"I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 09:19:45 PM
Pletnev-on piano
Wanda Landowska-on harpsichord (better then the Pletnev but you asked for piano so...I would get both...lol)

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #8 on: January 15, 2005, 03:32:31 PM
Both Mikhail Pletnev and Murray Perahia have very interesting interpretations of this particular sonata (Pletnev is my favourite – even though purists may squirm at the “romantic” way he plays it, I think Scarlatti himself would be very pleased).

Best wishes,
Bernhard
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #9 on: January 15, 2005, 09:01:12 PM
Thank you for all recommendations. Discovering Scarlatti is such a pleasure and there's so much to look forward to eventually hearing. I had just got four on a  Pogorelich CD which I originally bought for the English Suites and then when I heard the Scarlatti was hooked. Then I treated myself to a selection played by Christian Zacharias which I'm thoroughly enjoying. However, I somewhere came across a critcism of his interpretation; something along the lines of it being too pianistic, soft round the edges, whatever that means ... I just like it enormously! Sonata K380 E maj just happens to be on both CDs,  two quite different interpretations, both pianistic, full of expressive and dynamic contrasts.  I can't get my head round this dogma that seems to hold that baroque music should be played with "terraced dynamics" .... obviously one isn't going to do Chopinesque rubato but even in my (painstakingly slow!) learning of K27 I don't see how you could possibly play those repeating sets of arpeggios without dynamic shading within them, surely a step- like effect would be terribly crude? Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding something basic ?  I can't easily discuss this with my teacher as my lesson is in German and I can't yet express myself terribly precisely. I'd hate him to think I was criticising his teaching!
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Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #10 on: January 15, 2005, 09:07:51 PM
I'm looking for a recording of Scarlatti's Sonata in B minor, K 27, preferably piano not harpsichord. I can't find a CD with this particular piece.

Alternatively, if you have played this piece what sort of tempo do you take? I've only heard a fairly awful midi version which sounds like a machine gun! I feel it should be lilting and lyrical but would appreciate any ideas on interpretation.  It looks easier than it is, for me anyway ... sigh!

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #11 on: January 16, 2005, 01:54:52 AM


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Very nice. I take it much, much slower though.

DLu

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #12 on: January 16, 2005, 09:30:21 AM
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koji (STSD)

That was a nice treat to wake up to on a Sunday morning!

I love the words from Scarlatti. Hope you don't mind if I quote one sentence from it which may have answered my own question:
 
"Therefore show yourself more human than critical and then your pleasure will increase. .... Live happily."
"I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
W.B. Yeats

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #13 on: January 16, 2005, 01:16:58 PM
Pletnev turns that sonata into one of the most beautiful things i have ever heard

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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #14 on: January 23, 2005, 09:12:26 PM
Pletnev turns that sonata into one of the most beautiful things i have ever heard

I will second that. :D
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Re: Scarlatti Recording?
Reply #15 on: January 27, 2005, 10:33:09 PM
Got the Pletnev recording yesterday! Found myself listening to it with a big grin on my face ;D .... what a lovely surprise hearing this interpretation for the first time; not a boring "terraced dynamic" in earshot. The CD's also got K380 which again has a completely different feel to the two versions I've got. I can feel an obsession with Scarlatti coming on ... I think I'll even put the harpsichord recommendation on my wish list. Thanks again everyone for your suggestions.
"I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."
W.B. Yeats
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