This post is a general conversation starter: I was wondering if anybody had caught the "60 Minutes" episode on Lang-Lang, I myself didn't see it... but about 10 minutes after it was over I got a bazillion instant-messages from misc. people saying things like, "Lang Lang is the best pianist in the world!" (A title which Marc-Andre Hamelin holds, in my opinion) ... Did "60 Minutes" really sensationalize this mediocre pianist that much? I am not a fan of Lang-Lang I think his nickname "Bang Bang" is very appropriate, I think his performances lack intellect, temperment, and musical coherency and his cheap sentimentality is as transparent as glass.An example of this would be his recording of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 where his first and second movements completely lack feeling and seem detached and subdued... and then a torrent of noise (and I emphasize noise) in the third movement... it's as if he thought the third movement were the only one worth playing... rather sad, and this is just a taste of the artists's immaturity at the keyboard. I've heard that Lang-Lang has been playing since he was three, and I don't think his playing has matured since then.
If you argue that Lang Lang has no "emotion, musicality, feeling," or one of those impossible-to-define concepts, your argument holds no ground with me unless you have Lang Lang's technical ability, and, since the anti-Lang Lang grumblers are no more than envious, you probably do not.
To start: Yes, I am jealous; I wish I had Lang Lang's skills.Yet, I strongly disagree with the assertion that one has to have Lang Lang's technical ability in order to criticize him. One does not have to be as good or better, nor does one have to be able to play the piano at all. Music is judged by listening, not by playing. As long as one can LISTEN, one can very well judge, independent of one's own playing abilities.
Of course every listener has the right to make decisions for his or her self, but I have theorized that the harsh criticism Lang Lang has received on this and other boards is a result of jealousy of his technique. Therefore, logic dictates that in order to disprove my theory, only those who DO have technical skills comparable to Lang Lang can credibly talk him down.
Your logic is flawed on several levels. One would be that his technique is nothing special when compared to many other pianists. Would you say that any criticism of those other pianists should then also be based on jealousy? I "theorize" that it is highly unlikely that jealousy is the driving force. People might be jealous of what he CAN do, but they are certainly not jealous of what he IS doing.
Second, the criticism of LL is not directed against his technique, but against his musicality and general musicianship. It is directed at what he is doing with his skills, not at his skills. Technique plays no role in the criticism.
Forth, using your logic it would be just as non-credible for most people on this planet to claim that LL IS a good pianist, because, according to your theory, only pianists who can play as well or better as him would have the credibility to make such a judgement.
To the person who suggested the 60 Minutes segment was an "advertisement," I wouldn't go that far. The NY Times reviewer who gave Lang Lang a disgusting review shared his opinion, so that side was well represented.
It depends on what that mucis critic said in that TV program. Is it anything like:" Oh! I have been wrong about Lang Lang? " Haha!I haven't seen the tv progrm, so I don't know. Anybody who had viewed this program like to reveal what the music critic said?
Anybody can achieve great technique and be called a child prodigy if he is forced to undergo long hours of rigorous training everyday since three years old.
it's funny, since that aired on "60 Minutes" - several friends of mine who don't know piano or classical music, saw that and have approached me with comments like "did you hear about that new piano prodigy guy Lang Lang who is supposedly the most amazing piano player ever to come along" - etc. etc..interesting the perceptions media can create
This kind of studies can never be conclusive because you won't be able to find another pianist who had undergone the same type of vigorous training as Lang Lang had to compared with.
...Except for, you know, every child pianist in China...
It's that simple. Free will, freedom of choice, that's what it's all about. Exercise yours.
Look, if Lang Lang wants to promote the hell out of himself, he's more than welcome to. I don't see what's wrong with it, all musicians promote themselves, you'd be an idiot not to.It's that simple. Free will, freedom of choice, that's what it's all about. Exercise yours.
Why is there never shortage of people trying very hard to peak out for Lang Lang all the time?
From all the stuff I read here, Lang Lang has nearly no one defending him. At most some people object to all the harsh criticism he gets. Perhaps it's different elsewhere.
Lang Lang is the most over rated pianist I have come across. We need to compare him with performing pianists, not with you.
That joy is all that really matters.
I think it's very difficult to maintain the objectivity of one's opinion about Lang Lang when he or she has not yet attained the degree of success and popularity that he has already done. It's just going to look like mere jealousy to other people no matter what the truth is.. I also think that making one positive comment about Lang Lang (in spite of his other shortcomings) does not automatically make me a failthful adherent of his. We want to emphasize good aspects in a person, right?
Sorry that I am still getting wound up about this issue, but I finally want to see a serious and mature discussion about LL's, Yundi Li's or anybody else's musicianship.
That reminds me, has anyone ever seen a good black classical pianist? Now that is a rare breed.