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Topic: Why is Hamelin considered the greatest technician of all time?  (Read 4005 times)

Offline cuberdrift

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First of all, what is technique? First of all, what is technique?

In my opinion, technique is the ability to create a wide variety of sounds with the proper physical movements required.

Some great technicians can thus produce amazing sounds with much ease.

Therefore, for me, a great technician does two things:

1.) Create a wide variety of sounds, and
2.) Do so with easy physical movements.

For me, a great technician may NOT NECESSARILY be a great "musician". I have heard many Asian kids play with a technique at par with conservatory students, for instance. But you can identify a great technique without much musicality by noticing that they play the instrument primarily with their muscles, not their mind or heart.

Now on to Hamelin.

I haven't heard much from him, but what exactly is technically amazing about this guy? Is it simply the fact that he doesn't make mistakes? Or the fact that he tackles Alkan?

Just to let you know, Claudio Arrau who is not usually mentioned in "greatest virtuoso" threads, is known to have recorded the entire Alkan Solo Concerto in his youth.

And Horowitz on my hearing superbly satisfies both number one and number two of my criteria for being a great technician.

And I think Horowitz, by far, could produce far more distinct sounds than Hamelin.

Yet I don't know why many don't consider him to be one of the greatest technicians. Is it because he made mistakes when he was older? To me, this is irrelevant. I think pianists make more mistakes when they get old, generally. And this argument flatly ignores the fact that Horowitz had an amazing tonal control. I have heard few pianists play with the ease and control of Horowitz.

So if Hamelin did something that Arrau already did, and Hamelin doesn't demonstrate as much of a wide variety of sound as Horowitz, why is he considered superior to all in terms of technique?

Just my humble yet honest observation, for now. I'll admit I get to be biased.

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Cuberdrift
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Offline dogperson

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It's good to see you revived your own thread with this same theme from 2013.....
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=53318.0

Hamelin came in third out of three from your poll then.... he has now moved up to 'greatest technician of all times'?   Doubtful that such a big leap would have happened.

Offline ronde_des_sylphes

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Short answer to the question posed in the thread title: he isn't.
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Offline visitor

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The piano rebuilder that does work for me and tunes my grand is one of the greatest technicians I know of
That dude always figures out what is wrong w my piano and fixes it super fast!

Offline lostinidlewonder

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Greatest, best etc etc... its all subjective. Who cares. Stop wasting your time thinking of art on these terms.
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Offline ted

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Greatest, best etc etc... its all subjective. Who cares. Stop wasting your time thinking of art on these terms.

A sentiment with which I heartily concur; I couldn't have put it better.
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Offline outin

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A sentiment with which I heartily concur; I couldn't have put it better.
Very true.

But about Hamelin...I wonder why he can sometimes sound quite engaging but mostly just leaves me totally cold... Usually I either like a pianist or not. Maybe his way just works better with certain kind of repertoire.... I am yet to hear him in person though.

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"Why do different people think differently than I do?"

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Offline canada100

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Technique.....well, if you look at Hamelin's arrangements, they are surely enormously difficult!

Seriously, it's all subjective. Technique is the PHYSICAL aspect of playing piano....the physical control. I'd rather not try to separate technical/musical elements in practicing....just doesn't work well that way!!!!

Hamelin does have enormous technique indeed......

But again, all the great virtuoso pianists do.....

Technique....ability to play fast....is a given!

What matters is that we use the IMAGINATION of the mind!

Solomon Mikowsky said "I would not enjoy teaching if my work was reduced to showing students how to preserve museum pieces. Although I cannot stand carelessness with the score, I thrive on creativity and using the imagination of the mind"

These pianists, what sets them apart is their individuality....their style. NO two pianists can EVER sound the same!

Offline mad_tom

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He isn't, at least, not be everyone. He is an exceptionally good pianist with phenomenal skill, but there are many famous pianists with great technique and thousands more unknown ones with equally great technique.
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