plagiarism?

[kuska]

I was searching a bit recently for inspiration. This channel seemed a bit weird to me. The guy was telling people for months to wait for pdf sale (cause he doesn't have notes - what) to get the sheets but the sale isn't even coming. Anyway, these pieces looked somehow suspicious to me. And now I found this:

and this

And I'm not sure if the arrangements was originally done by Mancini but I guess it's more probable that he made it than the anonymous guy on the net. Anyway, the video mentioning Mancini was published before so even if it wasn't Mancini exactly, then surely it was somebody. Anyone knows anything about it?

[dogperson]

 I don't know anything about it, but I would offer one word of advice:  Delete your post! Plagiarism is quite a serious allegation, and if you are incorrect,  there are severe legal consequences to your public allegation.

[kuska]

I don't know anything about it, but I would offer one word of advice:  Delete your post! Plagiarism is quite a serious allegation, and if you are incorrect,  there are severe legal consequences to your public allegation.

I don't think so. Let's not go crazy about it. I'm not saying this IS the plagiarism, do I. I'm asking if anyone knows anything about it in depth - if this is really a piece by Mancini. I don't think it's forbidden to make sure. And that's a huge difference, isn't it.  I think I can't edit the topic's name - to put there a question mark, I can't even move it to the right board as I posted it in the audition room lol.

edit: OK. I found where to change the topic. I hope it's clearer now

[kuska]

OK so I've found this one on Amazon and I'm wondering now how many changes should you do in order to sign something as your own arrangement (not just an edition)?

https://www.amazon.com/Theme-Love-Story-Music-Francis/dp/B000E8EQRQ

[keypeg]

I have a feeling that this is in the wrong section of the forum, since the audition room is for one's own playing.  I don't know what the copyright rules are, only that there must be something to cover this.  If somebody makes an arrangement of a living composer's work at a time that the composition's copyright is still in effect, does he have to get permission from the composer first?  If it's a teacher, can he make a simplified arrangement for his students, and then use that, when he cannot print out extra copies of the music for his students to use?  As opposed to doing it to make money (sales).

[perfect_pitch]

I think the problem here is...

He claims in a lot of his arrangements, that he is the arranger - which is completely bogus. What he's done is either directly transcribe something that's already on the piano (like his Comptine d'utre by Yann Tiersen)... which is wrong. He doesn't get the credit for that. Yann Tiersen wrote the piece and he has published books with his arrangements and transcriptions.

HOWEVER, some of his arrangements (like his Titanic theme) which again, has been copied from another version, has such poor notation that he hasn't even put the emphasis on the correct beat, or his rhythmic grouping is poor (as in the Skyfall by Adele).

However, since as far as I can see, he doesn't charge for his poor arrangements... the question is whether any major harm is done. Yes, there is probably some moral damage to those who did arrange the material originally for which he has just copied it... and that's wrong - but he hasn't really 'cashed in' on anyone elses success... has he?