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« on: August 23, 2017, 12:07:53 PM »

Greetings...

I wanted to ask if anyone knows of any slightly obscure piano concertos (or works with piano and orchestra) that are worth listening to? I'm usually a bit of a romantic, but love the intensity of concerti like Hummels a minor, and Moszkowski's E Major harmonic richness. I don't mind Classical as well, but I do love it when they really expand the emotional gamut and provide some deep gut-wrenching moments.

I'd like to expand my aural repertoire. Any good ideas? I'm currently listening to Litolff's Concerto Symphonique No. 4.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 12:19:49 PM »

For starters, two of my favourites.



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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 12:26:06 PM »

Part 1 of 4: (take a look at this guy's channel - he has loads of romantic era concerti)


and this thread here  Grin https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=56360.0



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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2017, 12:35:33 PM »

Good to see Ronde here posting in top form.
I'll play too
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 12:39:29 PM »

Bolet was reputed to have considered this his favorite concerto
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 05:10:56 PM »

Neat one I discovered recently!
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 09:58:59 PM »

Thanks for these... I'm going to start listening to a couple of these tonight.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 02:05:19 PM »

Hey guys - keep posting if you know of any others. Already listened to Ronde's suggestions.

The Lyapunov wasn't bad, but the Henselt really hit the spot. I enjoyed that very much.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2017, 03:48:25 PM »


One of my favorite concertos.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2017, 03:52:47 PM »





My love for this composer started from this piece. I think he has another piano concerto, but I couldn't find it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2017, 06:02:09 PM »

Earl Wild's recording of this is supreme, worth seeking out but here is a decent /good one
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2017, 06:08:15 PM »



this is jiggy, other movements on youtube, easy to link to, i listen to this regulary, 'Latvian Rachmaninoff)
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2017, 06:09:16 PM »

Jaell
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2017, 11:56:12 PM »

The Villa-lobos piano concertos are pretty great and I'd definitely recommend his Bachianas Brasileiras No.3;



For something a little different you could try Akira Ifukube's Symphony Concertante for piano and orchestra;



Takashi Yoshimatsu's Piano Concerto is also very nice;



As is Carl Vine's, especially the second movement;



And for a real masterpiece York Bowen's Piano Concerto No.4 in A minor (couldn't find a recording online but it's on the Hyperion Romantic piano concerto series, no.16)
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2017, 12:16:00 AM »

Not sure if these are obscure enough, but they are definitely my favourite piano concertos from the romantic-ish era that don't get performed very frequently.... sometimes for justified reasons, obviously >.>















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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2017, 01:14:30 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2017, 01:20:25 AM »

hello perfect_pitch and nice topic,

Relatively unknown and seldom performed are the piano concertos of Nino Rota.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H36IgwvkYbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_5tilgIfQ

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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2017, 02:34:17 PM »

I'm slowly getting through them. Sometimes I'll listen to one, and then get distracted by a couple of suggestions - before making my way back to another video on this thread.

Thanks for these. I hope I'm not the only one discovering these semi-unknown treasures.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2017, 11:50:47 AM »

Max Steiner
Symphony Moderne another favorite of my list if movie/golden area film concertos
I have a solo transcription of this which is how I discovered the work *i suppose i could have posted about this in the transcripts roll call thread
Anyhoot, worth a listen, Earl Wild's is the definitive performance
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 01:28:25 AM »

Ginastera! He has more than one, but here's the first. It sounds fiendishly difficult.

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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2017, 02:54:13 PM »

Scharwenka 4th Concerto played by Stephen Hough. Really really unbelievable.

Also the first movement of the Tovey piano concerto is great, a real successor to the Brahms piano concerto style.
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2017, 04:14:40 AM »

Anton Rubinstein has a piano concerto in D minor that's kinda cool


Also Tchaik 1 and Rach 2 are pretty obscure nobody plays them and I can't find a recording anywhere
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2017, 05:16:36 AM »

Also Tchaik 1 and Rach 2 are pretty obscure nobody plays them and I can't find a recording anywhere

Mainly the reason I made this thread.     Grin
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2017, 01:42:19 PM »

worth the listen and re-listens. from the early  90's....1990's...., totally anachronistic and I'm glad.
lovely moments.
Hsiao Piano Concerto
live mov iii


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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2017, 02:00:11 PM »

For starters, two of my favourites.



This was an EPIC find. I am so glad you brought this one to my attention. The last 2 minutes of the 1st movement are ECSTATIC!!! If you don't believe me - give it just 2 mins of your time from this point

https://youtu.be/PeZPCacAz0A?t=11m2s

Although the audio quality on the video you posted above is a little shoddy and gets a little distorted in parts. This one however is fantastic.

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2017, 07:27:24 PM »

Yo apparently Tchaikovsky and Liszt both have a third piano concerto lmao
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2017, 09:57:32 PM »

Yo apparently Tchaikovsky and Liszt both have a third piano concerto lmao

I knew about Tchiakovsky's 3rd, but not Liszts...

Anyone have a recording???
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2017, 10:20:54 PM »

This is the same recording I have (it may be the only one, I don't know).

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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 03:08:11 AM »

Definitely not romantic (oops) but still interesting. Really reminds me of Ravel's bolero.

I'll bet that conductor feels pretty pointless. Tongue

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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 08:52:41 AM »

Thal!  This is your neck of the woods.  Awaiting your response to this thread.
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 10:11:22 AM »

This is the same recording I have (it may be the only one, I don't know).



Will listen to that later tonight. I'm surprised no one commented about the Henselt. That for me seriously deserves to be part of the great concerti of all time, along with Rachmaninoff's 2nd, 3rd, Brahms 1st and Liszt's 2nd (and Saint-Saens g minor)
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 05:11:20 PM »

Alkan wrote three "Concerti da Camera" published as op. 10. He wrote and performed them separately, but in my opinion, they seem very effective when played together as a single large three-movement concerto, like in this video. If I were programming it I would actually put the third one in the middle since unlike the others, it's a single-movement slow piece.

As an early Alkan work it doesn't show much of the weird harmonic experimentation and musical humor of his later works. As far as most audience's tastes are concerned, these might be Alkan's most immediately appealing works and I think they would be a big hit, with lots of melodic hooks, exciting bravura passages, and enough development to be interesting without into too much "weird" territory.

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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2017, 07:41:43 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2017, 08:22:03 PM »

Maybe too well-known, but this is a great one!

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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2017, 08:30:04 PM »

This was an EPIC find. I am so glad you brought this one to my attention. The last 2 minutes of the 1st movement are ECSTATIC!!! If you don't believe me - give it just 2 mins of your time from this point

https://youtu.be/PeZPCacAz0A?t=11m2s

Although the audio quality on the video you posted above is a little shoddy and gets a little distorted in parts. This one however is fantastic.



I've known this concerto for years (always posted in these kind of threads) and I still dont know whats so great about it.
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2017, 08:49:45 PM »

Don't know if this counts as "obscure" - I've certainly only just come across it.

It's a fairly recent piano concerto, but seems romantic in style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8m3i5saVi0&list=PLGDM4wBYDyrzefgoNH0k29V72ANn18heH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_for_Piano_and_Orchestra_(Hess)
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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2017, 09:03:03 PM »

the hess stuff is pretty neat. thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »


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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2018, 01:08:53 PM »

In case anyone is interested, found about 20 hours of (mostly) unheard of Concertos on YouTube, if you're wanting something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJFr4u23q4
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2018, 02:22:50 PM »

In case anyone is interested, found about 20 hours of (mostly) unheard of Concertos on YouTube, if you're wanting something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJFr4u23q4
great find.
this should be heard, 2009, i mean wow, it's like a cross between Ravel and Delius, it's beautiful especially w the slow build up, the climax of the work is (as they say w/ good bbq) "slap your  momma"  good. really, that wonderful.
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« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2018, 02:26:47 PM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XpjrqOFcGU&feature=youtu.be

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« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2018, 07:35:41 AM »

Thanks for posting the Qigang Chen, visitor. I had not heard of him but I shall waste no time in finding more and listening to it. While the similarities you mentioned are true, he seems to have his own, highly poignant voice underneath, and it is an intriguingly attractive one.
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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2018, 08:40:55 AM »

Hey Visitor... thanks for the Balakirev... very enjoyable.

Sadly enough, I think the Qigang Chen isn't quite for me... but thanks for posting it anyway. I'm sure there are others (apart from ted) who will enjoy it.
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« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2018, 08:55:24 PM »

https://youtu.be/02T1pMf8MPY

Been enchanted by the Nikisch PC for some time. It is so good, it is actually disturbing. Perhaps because the composer wrote it on his deathbed.

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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2018, 09:37:13 AM »

Thanks Thal...

I'll listen to it later tonight.
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