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Offline okoie

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music and self
« on: October 13, 2017, 07:48:36 AM »
quote of a former pianist (aged 66) : "when all mind's activity ( memories,imagination,desires,etc) abates and stops, music is only a bearable noise without any significance whatsoever. Only the infinite intensity of void and silence remain. At the end also noise vanishes".
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Re: music and self
«Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 10:18:56 AM »
deep

Offline okoie

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Re: music and self
«Reply #2 on: October 13, 2017, 05:01:33 PM »
thanks, Myames

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Re: music and self
«Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 03:28:25 AM »
I do often enjoy music that feels like noise without significance...makes me wonder about the state of my self ;)

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Re: music and self
«Reply #4 on: October 14, 2017, 03:42:49 AM »
I think that listening to music of any genre which you cannot connect to on any positive level is unbearable noise. We like music because it effects us on some emotional level, if it is devoid of all personal memory, imagination, desire what do you have but a noise which is interrupting? I like the sounds of waves crashing on the beach for instance, very bearable noise because it makes me think of the vast ocean and provides calming imagery in the mind.
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Re: music and self
«Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 05:46:43 AM »
If he is saying that a perceiving mind is an essential component of musical experience, then I agree, but like all tautologies it tells us very little of any use. A page of elegant mathematics is just peculiar marks on paper if all internal association vanishes, the deepest literature meaningless scribble. It seems to me the assertion is obvious but trivial.



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Re: music and self
«Reply #6 on: October 14, 2017, 06:53:14 AM »
Yer man's on acid.
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Re: music and self
«Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 09:09:06 AM »
Yer man's on acid.
I'd probably enjoy that too... ;)