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« on: October 28, 2017, 09:55:36 AM »

Hi everyone,

I'm currently studying Ravel's piano concerto in G Major and would like some advice about good recordings. I've listened to Marguerite Long, Helene Grimaud, Martha Argerich, Yuja Wang... Any other that would be interesting to listen to?

If anyone out there is currently studying this concerto too and wants to share opinion and ideas of fingering, I would be sooo happy.

Kind regards!  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 11:17:33 PM »

Hi everyone,

I'm currently studying Ravel's piano concerto in G Major and would like some advice about good recordings. I've listened to Marguerite Long, Helene Grimaud, Martha Argerich, Yuja Wang... Any other that would be interesting to listen to?

If anyone out there is currently studying this concerto too and wants to share opinion and ideas of fingering, I would be sooo happy.

Kind regards!  Smiley
I, too, am learning this piece along withy my long neglected other Concerto Repertoire.

1)  My late teacher, Robert Weaver (Ithaca, UT Austin) insisted on his students listening to as many recordings of a piece under their study.  Those who study any or all of the other Fine Arts, utilize the same Epistemology.

2)  Specific to your inquiry, I offer the following two links, which unfortunately do not include the 3rd movement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOFsXy8vR4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8xAOr-CQBM

If there are not tears in your eyes at the end of the Adagio, you do not have a soul.  Further, the pianist studied this piece under Marguerite Long (who made the original recording with Ravel in the Studio).

I suggest that you should listen to her recording again (turned up very loud) of the slow movement, wherein the left hand rolls the chords in the second and third parts of every triplet.  It also utilizes the "Breaking of the Hands" (bass note stroked slightly ahead of the soprano) in the right hand.  This was a common performance practice used by all of the original composer/pianists of the 18th , 19th and early 20th Centuries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VPgg3armCI

By the way, as you know, Ravel wrote and dedicated the piece to her, and initially did a small Concert Tour with her as soloist in order to introduce the work to the music public.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 04:01:10 AM »


Yet, ANOTHER PATHETIC attempt to troll people into watching your video.

PLEASE... STOP. This is getting sicking, ridiculous and it makes you look needy and pathetic.

How did your funding go for trying to spread your message about the rolled chords??? Please stop hi-jacking other peoples threads with your incessant need to post your video.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 04:17:04 AM »

Sammy Francois is the king of Ravel, try him out if you haven't already.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 10:46:47 PM »

Yet, ANOTHER PATHETIC attempt to troll people into watching your video.

PLEASE... STOP. This is getting sicking, ridiculous and it makes you look needy and pathetic.

How did your funding go for trying to spread your message about the rolled chords??? Please stop hi-jacking other peoples threads with your incessant need to post your video.
1)  All of Marguerite Long's "Analog" recordings, along with those recordings of the students of
Clara Schumann, ("The Pupils of Clara Schumann") show absolute evidence of this common performance practice.

2)  I have never listed four personal performance links at the end of every single post that I have made to any OP.  You have "Pathetically" got me beat there.

3)  Say whatever you want.  It is a free speech website, fortunately in most cases, and unfortunately in yours.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 12:15:12 AM »

2)  Specific to your inquiry, I offer the following two links, which unfortunately do not include the 3rd movement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOFsXy8vR4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8xAOr-CQBM
Neither video is available.  Sometimes what can be watched in one country is not available in another.  If you name the performer and/or pertinent information, sometimes we can find the same recording elsewhere.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 12:04:21 AM »

Neither video is available.  Sometimes what can be watched in one country is not available in another.  If you name the performer and/or pertinent information, sometimes we can find the same recording elsewhere.
"Keypeg"  You keep me on my "International" toes.  Thank you.

1)  The Concert Pianist Artist I refer to is very much alive,  and he is also the Senior Pianist at Columbia Artist Management.  His name is Philippe Entremont.

2)  This recording is available through Columbia Records/Sony Records.  And, as I said/alluded:  the slow movement is nothing short of a spiritual experience.

3)  In terms of my so-called "Trolling" self-promotion, nothing comes close to the current "Performance Forum" post:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=64425.0
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 02:30:17 AM »

1)  The Concert Pianist Artist I refer to is very much alive,  and he is also the Senior Pianist at Columbia Artist Management.  His name is Philippe Entremont.
I wasn't able to find a performance of that particular piece off the bat, but googling Philippe Entremont brings up a few recordings, and I also see there is at lest one masterclass by him.
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2)  This recording is available through Columbia Records/Sony Records.  And, as I said/alluded:  the slow movement is nothing short of a spiritual experience.
I'll have a look.  Spiritual experience in music is something to look forward to.
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3)  In terms of my so-called "Trolling" self-promotion, nothing comes close to the current "Performance Forum" post:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=64425.0
Well, to be trolling and self-promoting, one has to have something to promote.  With a common first name being used, and videos of people other than oneself, it can't be self-promotion.  More like an appetite for conversation, which isn't really a blameworthy thing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 08:58:55 AM »

In terms of my so-called "Trolling" self-promotion, nothing comes close to the current "Performance Forum" post:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=64425.0

First of all - Bob has had a great deal of wisdom in these forums for years, in fact - for over a decade - so he has put in a great deal of input. A lot of what he writes is not trolling.

What you've done is entered other peoples threads and used them as an excuse to promote your videos... There's almost 60 threads, most of which other people created, and you used them to promote your video.

Second of all - none of the videos he posted are of him, so how is that self-promotion in ANY WAY???

No offense, but if you are trying to liken Bob to as much of a troll as you are... that's like comparing apples to...

...a black hole; the latter probably being more interesting to watch than your video.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2017, 01:05:26 AM »

Well, at least now I know what Louis looks like!
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My Sonata No. 1, Mov. 1 and 4 (2 and 3 are still being edited)

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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 05:32:42 AM »

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