As far as Prokofiev 2--yes, she is fine, but in a sense very limited... not nearly on the same level as titanic performances of say, Yakov Zak, Bolet, or Horazio Guttierez... Best, M
Alistair,In fact, if you look more carefully, that was response to MY message, so I would think Pianoville was rather agreeing with me, rather than you. That's being said, it doesn't necessarily mean Pianoville disagrees with you, it is just that my idea was a bit different...
-That typical youtube "expert" comment
If you read Marik’s posts, there is a great deal of credentials behind this opinion. There does not seem to be any reason for your put down.
Mea culpa; my mistake! However, it does seem from the discussion between the three of us that we are all in broad agreement over the subject matter!Best,Alistair
I believe, her appearance is a marketing strategy of her managers and frankly, IMHO, beneath of her. She doesn't need it to prove she plays piano well enough. On the other hand, it is an indication of her approach and general cultural level, which one can hear in her music making. Again, just try to imagine Rosalyn Turek, Helen Grimaud, or Maria Joao Pires getting on stage in mini...
A marketing strategy, which is working pretty well, if we take the number of posts on the topic as a microcosm of its impact!
A marketing strategy, which is working pretty well, if we take the number of posts on the topic as a microcosm of its impact!Her image is a sign of the times though. MTV, the general depiction of women in the media, etc, all much different from 50 years ago. I suppose Eileen Joyce played upon her feminine image, but I can't think of any others offhand.I'd rather see Yuja Wang play Prokofiev wearing not very much than Alexander Toradze in a mankini!! Apologies for that, everyone
Just make a topic about girls and everyone will be interested
Lang Lang's exaggerated gestures when playing were also mentioned
Yes there is, read: Yuja Wang's Prokofiev 2nd is "very limited." Probably one of the greatest performers of the work in this generation alone, and after reading about how her body and dressing distracts him from her music, it's not far-fetched to say he holds a bias against her. Not to mention it's quite common for old folks to call East Asian performers limited in expression, when it's far from being the truth.
Very limited is definetely an overexaggeration. I love Yuja in Prokofiev 2 but I don't know anyone that thinks she does it better than Gutierrez. Also, let Marik have his own opinion. Just becuase you like her doesn't mean everyone has to.
Why won't you let me have my own opinion?
I don't remember doing that
*anime Yuja continues to follow thread progress
I've heard a number of pianists in what to me is Prokofiev's finest piano concerto including Yuja but I'm by no means conviencved that she is the best of them.Best,Alistair
Well, we must agree to disagree in part on that. Yes, the actual mechanics of what he does to produce the sound are indeed economical, that very fact makes the remaining physical histronics all the more absurd and, in any case, they're counter-productive in technical terms.
Gutierrez for the win!
Yes there is, read: Yuja Wang's Prokofiev 2nd is "very limited." Probably one of the greatest performers of the work in this generation alone,
and after reading about how her body and dressing distracts him from her music, it's not far-fetched to say he holds a bias against her.
Not to mention it's quite common for old folks to call East Asian performers limited in expression, when it's far from being the truth.
Alistair,My reply was to your original message where you mentioned that "long term medical risks". Those medical risks usually expected when there is some physical tension or inefficiency of pianistic apparatus. Lang Lang's has very relaxed, economical and natural approach to the keyboard, so I would not expect his mimics, or gestures (however ridiculous and out of context they are) somehow become medical risks, which was my point.It would be worth to mention there are some pianists who do have quite excessive gestures. Grigory Sokolov and Glenn Gould immediately come to mind. Of course, by no means that was on the way of their artistry, let alone presented any medical risks, or conditions.Best, M
When creating this topic I knew there would be a lot of posts. Just make a topic about girls and everyone will be interested
Why would girls be interested in a topic about girls. It's extremely boring. How about making a topic about good looking guys. Then everyone would be interested.
I think your argument is pretty dumb. First you say that not everyone would be interested cause there are girls here, but then you say that if we would discuss guys everyone would be interested, even though most of the members here are guys...
Are there any good looking male pianists?
I was being ironic, and you missed the point. You had written "Just make a topic about girls and everyone will be interested."I'm a girl. If you make a topic about girls, there is no reason for me to be interested. I reversed the statement to make a point. If I said "everyone will be interested" if the topic is about a good looking guy, you'd go "huh? Why would I be interested?"You also don't know what percentage of members is male or female. You've taken on the name "pianoville". For all I know, you could be a lady. See what I mean?
inb4 outin says rach4ever
I've seen a few others, but generally I concentrate on the sound more.
I neither know nor care; should anyone?
Of course.I was just curious because there are at least a handful of very attractive female pianists getting a lot of attention these days but I haven't noticed that same phenomenon happening for male pianists.
because culture. we (men AND women) just tend to place more importance on women's appearances than we to men regardless of the circumstances; whether it's acting, teaching, sports, piano playing, or science appearance is important. Men just don't get the same treatment. also women get more freedom in choosing their appearances, :)especially in the concert hall. Flowery dresses, hot dresses, skirts, kimonos etc with diverse hairstyles too. meanwhile guys usually wear black suits, a daring one would go for a white one.
I don't think there is anything wrong with noticing that someone is good looking. You don't want to judge them based on that but we aren't robots. There's no harm in making the observation is there?
But by all means, let your hair flow freely boys!
No, I guess not in moe general terms, but we are on a piano forum discussing pianists and piano playing!
About JujaI think she's hot!She wouldn't have to ask me twice plus look at her ankles! very important
That said, she's a fine pianist who has no need to dress as she does.Best,Alistair
Neither do most women, they do it because they want to.
You sure have a lot to say for someone who doesn't care about how she dresses
Alistair, perhaps you would like to comment on Stephen Hough's choice of outfit.Surely such a stiff jacket is restricting the movement of his arms. How could it not? I find it completely unnecessary and it adds nothing the the quality of his pianism. Why doesn't he wear a simple t-shirt, track pants, and trainers ensemble?
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