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Topic: Another video , annectdotaly showedmore genetic correlation music talent  (Read 2104 times)

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It a not a policitaly correct notion since It goes against the  paradigm of childhood development of "you can be and do anything you want if you try and work hard but like I've said before,  nature loads the gun, we pull the trigger," and nature doesn't give everyone a gun or the same gun or ammo, or the same ammo, or the desire to fire etc

I just passing along a wonderful little video and spreading holiday cheer, but it does highlight more annectotal evidence for genetically linked musical aptitude , properly developed, leading to a uncommonly high level of talent
His daughter has good chops, I see a lot of practice but she also does a lot of subtle things almost effortlessly that yi U just sort of  need to be able to naturally do to sing like that and it's jazz, there is almost certainly some improv in here too even within an overall plan for the performance

 I recon she could go far if she continues to practice etc, she already has the marketable name, it's something I'll be watching and gladly listening for

Wynton's 8 year old daughter sings better than Some of  the jazz vocal concentration majors I went to school with

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While I agree that genetics plays a much bigger role than many like to assume, don't forget that things like auto-tune exist today. That said, I've heard other young people from musical families sing live and was absolutely astonished so it wouldn't surprise me if no auto-tune was used here.

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Autotune? For a simple song like that?
Singing in tune comes easy to some and seems impossible to others. Age has little to do with it.

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Auto tune is almost ubiquitous these days but please read the second part of my comment, the part where I said "it wouldn't surprise me if no auto-tune was used here".

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Auto tune is almost ubiquitous these days but please read the second part of my comment, the part where I said "it wouldn't surprise me if no auto-tune was used here".

I did, I would just be very surprised if it was...

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Meh… tométo, tomáto.  ;D

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There's still the nurture side there.  She's going to have music around all the time, high quality, decent teachers....  You'd probably have to take her out of the that environment and see what happens.  Or take someone else and stick them in that environment. 

If you had a group of clones, two sets... One genetically related, one not.  Or maybe more clones with variations of non-related.  Leave some in the original environment.  Take some out to another music/arts environment.  Stick some in a non-music environment.  Then compare.  Probably no surprises though.  Better environment = better results.  For genetics, he's already risen to the top along with other family members.  If they weren't good at music, he wouldn't be in it still.  Someone less genetically geared up for music didn't "survive."  I'd still think it's both nature and nurture.

I wonder what kind of pressure there would be in an environment like that.  Even if no one demands anything, I would still think there's something implied.  It would be like a technical/appearances type of pressure.  "You know you were off on that note, right?  Don't you hear that?"  If something had been technically off for a while.  Some kind of love of music would be kind of required too I would think.  If everyone else in the family loves music... then everyone in the family would, right?
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There's still the nurture side there.  She's going to have music around all the time, high quality, decent teachers....  You'd probably have to take her out of the that environment and see what happens.  Or take someone else and stick them in that environment. 

If you had a group of clones, two sets... One genetically related, one not.  Or maybe more clones with variations of non-related.  Leave some in the original environment.  Take some out to another music/arts environment.  Stick some in a non-music environment.  Then compare.  Probably no surprises though.  Better environment = better results.  For genetics, he's already risen to the top along with other family members.  If they weren't good at music, he wouldn't be in it still.  Someone less genetically geared up for music didn't "survive."  I'd still think it's both nature and nurture.

I wonder what kind of pressure there would be in an environment like that.  Even if no one demands anything, I would still think there's something implied.  It would be like a technical/appearances type of pressure.  "You know you were off on that note, right?  Don't you hear that?"  If something had been technically off for a while.  Some kind of love of music would be kind of required too I would think.  If everyone else in the family loves music... then everyone in the family would, right?
Very much in line w my post, ie note it is annectotal evidence , ie n=1, and the whole nature loads the gin but people pull The trigger:)
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