Adding: at the time (end of 2016) I also got to explore a hybrid of the type that has strings (i.e. acoustic) but you can play silently with ear phones and then hear an artificial voice as per dp. I did not like the experience. I don't know which piano I played, and there was only one such in the store. The acoustic piano was not as good as the grand pianos I had played in the store to get a feel. When it was on silent dp mode, I didn't get the responsiveness in sound that I expected, and what I produced in silent mode was so far removed from what I'd get when I switched to acoustic that it confused my ears, my hands, and my mind. I was afraid it would mess me up, and it felt uncomfortable. That said, there may be better hybrids of the acoustic type, and I did not spend much time with that one.
When it comes to sound, sampling is also starting to make way for another system, the name of which I've forgotten (Rolland touts itself as using that) but that would make it more complicated.
Modelling is what Roland uses. I have a Roland and the possibilities of tweaking the sound are fine, but I have been thinking about looking into Kawais because of the touch. I am less interested in the sound of a digital because whatever I do it is still digital. But I am not fully comfortable with the touch of my Roland. Yet for some strange reason I have not managed to find any of the better kawais to try out in the local shops.
Modelling is the word I was looking for. In fact, even the sampled pianos use some degree of modelling I found out.What you're writing - I was in that kind of place at the time. I went first to Yamaha and I think I explored the U1 or something like that, which had a very nice sound, but the touch was not what I had already experienced on the Kawai. The room had strong acoustics making pianos sound especially impressive and I kept that in mind.The next place I went to had Kawai acoustic grand pianos, Kawai CA97 and 67, and also Rollands. I first sat down at a Rolland. That action was not quite the same. But I did hover between the two for a while.
But I must say that some other people very much like my piano and do not think there's anything wrong with the touch. I think it depends on what kind of music you play and what you focus on in your studies. I too find the touch to be very important. And I think my playing improved immensely after I got another acoustic piano to practice on. I only use the upright now when it's impossible to play without headphones. I feel sorry for the piano though, it is tuned regularly and hardly ever played on the acoustic mode. I think I should just find it a better home...
Nooooo, because I loved being at your place with two pianos! And I know exactly what you mean with the silent function changing the performance of the piano. I have played on countless Yamaha U1 pianos at my piano summer schools, but then I came home to my piano teacher who has a silent U1 and I felt the difference. Then I noticed it was the same with your piano. The grand is of course much, much nicer to play but ... after all these pianos I have tried the last years, I am kind of used to variations ... Some pianos are like a dream, some are horrible, some are digital, some are acoustic, some are like this and some like that. I love my own digital grand, but I have also tried some cheap digitals that were so bad that I simply refused to play more than a few notes. Recently I found a grand that looked lovely on the photos - a bit like yours - and had a most reasonable price ... and then I discovered that the seller was just a few kilometres away from my home! Uh ... too tempting. A lovely grand, right size, right price, so close to my own home. I have not dared to contact the seller because ... I don't have room for this instrument. Or I have to sell my digital grand, and I am not ready to do that yet. As I said, I like it too much. It is my friend and my companion. But if the new Kawai Novus get available and affordable ... I have to try it, at least. It looks incredibly promising. I have played the Yamaha AvanGrand N1 several times and even though the sound is not like the real thing, the touch is.PS. About that acoustic grand that was for sale - I don't know if it is still available today, though - my husband mumbled something about storing in warehouses ... Oh. It is very, very tempting. Just 800 euro (plus, I assume, costs for some renovation).
Uprights are often given away for free in these days (the buyer has to arrange the transport, though) and I have also seen grands being sold for almost nothing. But it has to do with the condition, of course. This piano looks great on the photos. I also know a business that can do absolute wonders with old pianos, making them look and feel just like new ... that costs far more than 800 EUR, though ... rather 8000. ... and yes, I am fully aware that a piano can look great on a photo and sound like a wreck, don't anyone worry. I was not born yesterday.
Interresting to read how the topic developped here! Great discussion. The SK2 is just stunning instrument. The color and richness of the tone from 1.8m piano is simply mind blowing, and I have never heard something like that before even from bigger instruments.
You're screwed now !! You won't want anything else, least not for a while. You gotta love those Shirgeru's.
True, but its not reasonable, this is how I fight it in my mind:-) But actually I might go cheapest silent baby grand rental for one year, and then make my decision what will the the lifetime one. Shop has a good deal when you rent and want to purchase afterwards, no loss option.
Shigeru Kawai is one of the best grands I have ever played, I truly enjoyed both the touch and the sound. Unfortunately their price has sky-rocketed since they got some reputation. On the other hand, the Kawai Novus hybrid indeed has the sound from Shigeru Kawai, as I recall it. And yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know that no digital in the world can beat a fine acoustic grand. All of us would have one if we could ... Sorry, but I have been annoyed more than once by people who proudly tell us that they can clearly feel the difference and they clearly prefer the acoustic grand to a digital. (Wow ...) Their ears and fingers are so delicate and fine-tuned or whatever, that they simply fall apart if they are forced to play on these second rate instruments. Having said that, I wish you the best of luck with your choice of instrument and I wish you many happy playing moments!
To soften a bit my statements about digitals here, or why I decided to go more real than digital:-)- My teacher actually started the discussion about the touch, and truth is that Steinways in the school are so much different from digital I play at home. Obviously before I started to have regular play on Steinway, I was ok living with what I have. Happy ignorance.- Ears and sensitivity, I think that depends on individual. I dont say my ears are any more senisitive than others. Thats probably false and I would never state that, as I can´t really compare what others hear:-)- The real piano is so much different from digital with additional physical feeling. I want to stop looking for instrument which in fact will be always piano simulator. I want to play piano, and I will need to make a lot of compromises in my appartment to make it happen. - I have heard Avant Grand being played in the shop, and untill I did not see its digital, I was not sure what it was. But different story is when you are listenning to your piano for hours of practice, and there digital sound may become annoying (for me the only longterm pleasant VST is Garritan CFX).- Shigeru Kawai has a high pricetag, and may not be my choice for that reason:-) But it may be the winner if I am in position to select without limits of space and budget. I do consider also, that after 10 years almost any digital will be slightly outdated, and in 20 years will need to be replaced, but acoustic may be the lifetime music partner - which I would really love to achieve one day in future.Regardless of what instrument we have, we all play for beauty, serenity, passion and endless other expessions and colors of piano music. Myself I appreciate also the never ending challenge, lifetime learning process. That is what connects us here in this forum, whatever different personal opinions we may have. So thanks to all for advice, and I wish you all great joy of music!