Williams pianos

[keypeg]

I have become curious about this brand of piano because of this thread https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=45302.0, posts today's date, where I had been asking about headphones.
First, does Williams also make acoustic pianos?  All I could find were digital pianos.
When I wrote asking advice and for more information on headphones, I also stated what kind of piano I have, in case that was pertinent (per: headphones).  I was then advised to buy a Williams piano.
I had heard a little bit about Williams when the brand came up, always negative, tbh. This whole thing got my curious.  (I am more than happy with my Kawai.)

[hardy_practice]

https://industryinoshawa.wordpress.com/miscellaneous/williams-piano-company/

[keypeg]

That link gives some history of the company.  I could not find any information on the pianos.  Above all, in googling I could only find digital pianos by Williams, not acoustic pianos.  I can't imagine that you were advising me to replace my Kawai CA97 with a Williams digital.  But that is what the message seemed to be.

[keypeg]

I was curious whether anyone would step in for any of the three threads where this occurred.  It's a good thing that I'm not a self-teaching relative novice or generally new.  Somebody writes in asking about headphones, and mentions which piano is being used in case that is pertinent for the headphones.  The piano is a Kawai CA97, which is known to be a top of the line hybrid piano.  Advice comes in to buy a Williams piano. And everyone is ok with that?  Or maybe you all figure I know better so nothing need be said.

I had heard of Williams because in one of the two forums recently a student was having problems, was asked what piano he played, and when he said it was a Williams, the responded said "Get rid of that piano.  It has spring action."  What I have been able to find about Williams is that they all seem to be digital, and that they are relatively inexpensive.  I found one review on one of its models, with an emphasized "stay away" followed by a litany of problems and faults.  I was not able to find anything positive in reviews and especially not at the serious level.  It might actually be useful for anyone else if there is more information on this piano, in terms of playing it, experiences with it and so forth.

So basically a student writes in asking about headphones, and seems to be advised to purchase a digital piano that seems not to be anywhere near the quality piano that student already has.  I was just surprised at the silence.

[lhorwinkle]

Williams pianos are the worst of the worst. Poor sound and poorer action. They're sold only at Guitar Center, home of bottom-of-the-line gear.

If anyone is looking for a low-priced piano, try the Casios. You don't get top-end gear for a rock-bottom price, but at least you get something FAR better than the Williams.

[hardy_practice]

Surprising since they closed down in 1931.

[keypeg]

Surprising since they closed down in 1931.

So you recommended that I buy a piano from a company that you say closed down many years ago?  There are new versions of Williams digital pianos that have come out recently, and somebody is making them under that name.  You were intentionally obtuse in each communication, and there is no reason to go in the typical circles. 

[hardy_practice]

So you recommended that I buy a piano from a company that you say closed down many years ago? 

Not exactly.  What I actually said was:

Frankly, I doubt your playing will be that nuanced in fact, anybody's playing.   I use Sennheiser but would never practice on a DP.  Get yourself an old Williams piano - made in Oshawa, high quality.

[keypeg]

Williams pianos are the worst of the worst. Poor sound and poorer action. They're sold only at Guitar Center, home of bottom-of-the-line gear.

If anyone is looking for a low-priced piano, try the Casios. You don't get top-end gear for a rock-bottom price, but at least you get something FAR better than the Williams.

That is also what I found.

Additionally, I was not looking for a piano. I was trying to learn more about headphones.

[hardy_practice]

'old Williams piano - made in Oshawa' at The Guitar Center??  Also, though you failed to acknowledge it, I did recommend Sennheiser headphones.  Maybe read more, type less?

[keypeg]

Again, thank you lhorwinkle for your feedback here as well as your thorough information in answer to my headphones question in the original thread.