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Offline rosejaune177

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Pedalling advice!! Brahms 76/6
on: February 15, 2018, 12:10:15 AM
Before anyone suggests I that do either of these things,
yes, I've talked to my teacher
and
yes, I've tried working this out for myself. 
;D

I was just wondering if anyone can give me their opinion on suitable pedalling in the opening bars of Brahms' Intermezzo Op. 76 no. 6.
https://sheetmusic.pianoshelf.com/sheetmusicimg/Brahms-Klavierstucke-op-76-no-6-Intermezzo-page1-51c911adb394e.jpg
It's hard to do without blurring all the harmonies! I'm currently pedalling with each LH quaver (obviously lifting the pedal in the rests). Good idea? Bad idea?

Hopefully somebody on here has played this... or can sight-read it for me and give me some expert thoughts... :D
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Re: Pedalling advice!! Brahms 76/6
Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
doesn't address exactly but I find w Brahms especially late works,  try as much as possible to pull off the lines you want w little or no pedaling,  sprinkle in as needed even a somewhat Bach like approach and pedaling at times works, sort of like a haircut where you can always go shorter and shorter until you are there, not so much other direction, pedal is easier to add more and more but once you learn it w a lot it's hard to go the other way


really great discussion that May help you
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Re: Pedalling advice!! Brahms 76/6
Reply #2 on: February 25, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
Yeah, looks like less is more in this case! I'll experiment with the pedalling with that in mind. It's just difficult because I can't manage a 4-5 octave fingering so I have to pedal the slurs  :-\

Just started the lecture - very interesting!!

Thank youuu!  :)

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Re: Pedalling advice!! Brahms 76/6
Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 06:56:17 PM
Yeah, looks like less is more in this case! I'll experiment with the pedalling with that in mind. It's just difficult because I can't manage a 4-5 octave fingering so I have to pedal the slurs  :-\

Just started the lecture - very interesting!!

Thank youuu!  :)
good deal and that lecture gas awesome Insight. from what I've read Brahms didn't even have a sustain pedal on his personal/practice piano [either bilt without or he had it removed]. so there's that:)

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Re: Pedalling advice!! Brahms 76/6
Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 09:20:20 PM
good deal and that lecture gas awesome Insight. from what I've read Brahms didn't even have a sustain pedal on his personal/practice piano [either bilt without or he had it removed]. so there's that:)

Brahms:
His private allegiance remained with the Streicher; when an 1868
Streicher grand, no. 6713, was given to him by the company in 1873 it
must have been an especially welcome gift because it stayed with him at
his home in Vienna until the end of his life. This Streicher, now lost,
could have given a very good idea of the conservative piano still
appreciated by Brahms in his old age.

EDIT: The piano was evidently destroyed during the Second World War.

I'm looking at the famous "Brahms playing the G minor Rhapsody" painting (the one with cigar in his mouth with drooping ashes). He has his foot on the sustain pedal here.

Your advice on pedal usage may be great. I am unable to verify: "Brahms didn't even have a sustain pedal on his personal/practice piano."
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