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The views of sublime composers towards the audience, pianists, musicians and etc (Read 987 times)

Offline blairderosa

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Greetings, dear listeners. A thought in regard to the matter in topic had occupied my mind, and therefore I was resolved to make such an inquiry to know more about the glorious composers of the Baroque, Classical and Romantic periods.

Given the state and certain circumstances of such eras, I believe the music of such precious composers were to be played for nobles and those belonging to those of high social ranks. Instruments such as  phonograph did not exist until the last centuries of the nineteenth century; Henceforth pianists and other musicians were entrusted with the task to play such immense joys to the ear and mind.

I have personally have read about the behavior of Master Beethoven, who would have not hesitated to express his remark of disdain towards his aristocrat audience, had any of them done something other than giving their utmost attention to his playing.

However, the matter of this discussion is a little different to such accounts, and I shall hereby trouble you dear readers with several questions of mine.

Did such meritorious composers have any views towards commoners as listeners? Were the people who did have a noble origin, deemed worthy in their eyes to listen to their wondrous pieces?

How did they view a pianist? Is there any piece of diary available with regard to their demands of the pianists chosen to play their pieces, or their opinions and claims about them?

For whom was the publications of pieces intended other than grand musicians?

Was ("Would"for the composers of the Classical and Baroque periods) a device such as Phonograph, an impressive invention to them, or rather an unpleasant nuisance? Since I had heard composers such as Master Brahms craved absolute music, I presumed there might have been an opposition towards such devices which could display the beauties of music with no presence of a pianist, conductor or musicians whatsoever, and be supplied to anyone who could afford buying one, regardless of his social or musical background.


I will be grateful to hear of such information concerning any composer of the Baroque, Classical and Romantic eras and let me add that the answer can be imaginary, based on their statements and behavior towards similar issues. I also thank you for spending the time to read this post.

Offline beethovenfan01

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None of these composers that I know of (except possibly Haydn) had any objection towards the social class of the listeners. Beethoven just as readily played for commoners as anyone else, and much of Chopin's music (and music in general) is based on folk melodies!

Your points are valid, but they don't imply what you think. The higher classes had money to burn, and reputation to uphold. Endorsing the arts was a great way to do that, so composers naturally looked to them for patronage. It had nothing to do with their opinions of social class (many of them were commoners themselves)--they just wanted to eat!

I also highly doubt anyone would view the phonograph as anything but a blessing. If anything, composers would have wholeheartedly- endorsed it, because all they wanted was to eat and still be able to do their art for an appreciative audience! I am sure that any of the composers would eagerly have jumped at the chance to record themselves playing their own works as much as possible and sold records for a great profit!

That's all there is to it, to my knowledge.
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«Reply #2 on: March 10, 2018, 04:25:31 PM »
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Offline blairderosa

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How pleasant it is then to see the generosity and benevolence Master Liszt and Master Beethoven bestowed upon the listeners regardless of their birth or wealth! Their dedication and love towards the art of music was absolutely commendable. I must thank you both for enlightening me with such valuable information.

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How pleasant it is then to see the generosity and benevolence Master Liszt and Master Beethoven bestowed upon the listeners regardless of their birth or wealth! Their dedication and love towards the art of music was absolutely commendable. I must thank you both for enlightening me with such valuable information.

I wonder what's up with you calling the composers by "Master X" like they're Jedi Knights? As well as the high-class lingo. It sounds like something I myself would do, though. We're the same.