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Kapellmeister27

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concerto slow movement
on: January 20, 2005, 06:47:30 PM
what do you think is the most beautiful slow movement in a piano concerto.

my vote: Rach 2

Offline SteinwayTony

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 07:14:27 PM
Great idea for a thread.  I'm very passionate about slow movements.  Brahms said that from a compositional standpoint, the most difficult thing to write is a long adagio.

Rach 2 is one of the best in the repertory.  That is for sure.  Other greats in my book are Beethoven 4 (as short as it is), Grieg, Litolff 4 (best known for the virtuosic scherzo movement), Chopin 1 and 2, and most of the Mozart concertos.

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 07:18:11 PM
Chopin's E minor
Saint-Saens's 5th
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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 07:20:16 PM
I really like Rach 3 slow movement. There are others, but that stands out. It rivals the Rach 2 slow movement, IMO.
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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 07:51:58 PM
Beethoven 5th
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Offline Ludwig Van Rachabji

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 08:18:42 PM
There are just too many to choose!

Rach 2, 3
Chopin E Minor
Beethoven 5 - Emperor
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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 08:19:26 PM
Hmm, everything I've mentioned has already been said...
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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 09:30:42 PM
Grieg A minor

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 09:54:03 PM
khatchaturian!

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #9 on: January 20, 2005, 10:43:03 PM
Beethoven 5
Brahms 2 (esp the opening cello bit)
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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 11:06:06 PM
I fourth Beethoven's 5th

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 11:54:48 PM
khatchaturian!
Absolutely! I love the whole concerto, but the 2nd movement is so perfect after the quite violent (at times) first movement. It really speaks to me.
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His violin concerto has a really good slow movement too. Although I like the faster movements even better :D

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 12:39:10 AM
Ravel's G major Piano Concerto wins the title IMO.  Especially when the flute solo comes in after the long piano section.

Closely followed by Rach 2, then Rach 4.  I don't think the third concerto is one of the most beautiful really, because it opens so melancholic.

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #13 on: January 21, 2005, 03:09:00 AM
there really are so many that are beautiful...

i have been swept away lately by the Shostakovich No. 2

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 04:17:39 AM
Mozart 23, Rachmaninoff 2, Bartok 3, Ravel, both Chopin, Beethoven 4 and 5 (and 2 isn't so bad either) are the ones that immediately come to mind...

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 06:09:45 PM
Ravel's G major Piano Concerto wins the title IMO.  Especially when the flute solo comes in after the long piano section.

of course, how could i forget about this one! i love especially the "long" piano solo introduction.

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #16 on: January 21, 2005, 06:52:11 PM
ravel , grieg, rach 1,2,3,4, hehe, prokofiev 1, 4,5  ( his other concertos as you know dont really have any "slow" movements as such, they have slow sections , though, ),
khachaturian, shostakovich 2,chopin both concertos,   are SOME  of the greatest concerto slow movements

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #17 on: January 21, 2005, 10:01:33 PM
Here I gotta give my humble opinion. I think that Dvorak's piano concerto slow mvt is sublime. As is Scriabin's. Something that has always put me off Rach2 slow mvt (eben though im learning it) is performers habit of slowing down at the end of each bar! how trivial?! anyway, Saint Saens 1 slow mvt is also nice

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #18 on: January 22, 2005, 12:22:42 AM
Chopin E Minor
Chopin F Minor

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #19 on: January 22, 2005, 02:28:09 AM
Couldn't agree more on the Shostakovich 2, my personal favorite!

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #20 on: January 22, 2005, 02:51:10 AM
My vote must be for the Grieg.

That first ornament in the theme is the most ecstatic moment in the piano concerto repertoire, in my opinion.

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Does anyone else here think the opening of Liszt's 'Orage' (AdP - Suisse No.5) sounds like the Gymnopedie from Hell?

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Re: concerto slow movement
Reply #21 on: January 22, 2005, 07:49:49 AM
rach 3, i LOVE the valse like part around the end of it
litolff4
beethoven 4,the slow movment is one of the greatest orchestral works ever written.
beethoven 5
hummel A minor and B minor

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