I assume that when you play the role of the young teacher who has learned the corrected way, and then you play the role of the young teacher who has not learned the corrected way, you are probably going after the idea you have often posted about people being taught to always emphasize beats 1 & 3. That is what you would be illustrating in the two ways you play it, as this young teacher.
Do you think most people here will just forget your commitment to record two specific pieces of music and be willing to play your new game? Post your own recordings of The two pieces I’m sure you haven’t forgotten what they are
An analogy.I move to some corner in the world where locally there is an odd practice in punctuation. People put the period or question mark in the wrong place. I then have the idea that everybody in the world does this, and decide to educate them. I tell them that periods come at the end of the sentence. I then create these two examples:1. why am I happY ?it is because the sun is shininG .does it shine at nighT ?no !the end 2. Why am I happy? It is because the sun is shining. Does it shine at night? No! The end.I ask which of these two examples is easier to read. Obviously the second one is easier to read, and the error of the first one is a no brainer. But the people reading this will think "Why am I being asked this? Is this person trying to teach me not to do a thing that I would never do?" It's just a really weird interaction. They're told almost everybody does the mistake in no. 1, but those reading have no experience of this "common mistake".We have been told that almost everybody plays by emphasizing beat 1, and maybe beats 1 & 3. The examples that I listened to, in the supposed "before lesson" ones, did that kind of emphasis and sounded clumsy as opposed to the "after lesson" ones which came first. Clearly the clumsy doesn't sound as good as the non-clumsy. But this is like my language use example.
As you see I have recorded not two but 20+ songs. We are not children and everyone understands that all these pairs of recordings are done by me.What is the problem to express your opinion about the better way to play and identify the mistake?
Not unusual, but your post of ‘songs’ and recordings is unresponsive. The last time you were here, you agreed to post Your own recording of Rachmaninoff’s elegie, so that we could see how much more you know than Rachmaninov when he played it.... and was it Alkan? Sorry, a recording of twinkle twinkle little star is not the same. I’m sure you have not forgotten the commitment that you made.... and have ignored. Think I’ll go watch that old classic movie ‘Thr Music Man’.
The problem is, if I try to teach people not to do a thing that they don't do anyway, it's going to be puzzling. In my example, nobody writes in that wrong way (except some who learn English after writing a right-to-left language with a different script).
In regard to the "one" and "three", and the deliberate clumsy renderings of some of what I have heard:I don't hear that kind of playing from good pianists.
When the statements of "what is happening in the world" clash, and there is no overall picture of the world anyway.
Vladimir, would you be able to grace us with a recording of you playing this same piece as you think it ought to be played? That would be the best comparison for understanding of your ideas, I would think. Thank you in advance.
But in fact, you just skipped listening and started to criticize me without having an idea: what and how do I play?
You are making a few assumptions. My "criticism" was advice about some parts of your presentation that was likely to turn people off, namely the story of a young teacher when I don't think it was so, and the blanket statement about pianists. You could have seen that as help. If I heard that the "other player" was you, having your style of playing, then obviously I listened (your second assumption). I didn't listen to number one. I went for music that was simpler and more humble. You could have taken my request with more grace. I'm about the only person who has expressed interest of any kind. Thank you for providing the link. I will wait for others to respond and am probably out of this discussion.
I am sorry. Please, accept my apology.I was just surprised that you did not listen EVEN ONE (as I understood) piece out of my 25. I was wrong because I judged the others by my self. I always listen to the no 1 - first and expected you to do the same. I appreciated your interest and attitude. Please, do not leave.
Topic: 20+ songs with the same mistake before and without it after the lesson. 