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Topic: Conflicting dynamics  (Read 930 times)

Offline momopi

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Conflicting dynamics
on: April 13, 2019, 07:21:50 AM
Hi!

Is it possible to play with conflicting / contrary on both hands? Example: RH - decrescendo LH - crescendo

If so, how? I have difficulty practicing. Thanks!

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Re: Conflicting dynamics
Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 12:00:06 PM
Absolutely, you can develop this skill.... but it takes time and patience to learn to have this level of hand independence.  Be patient.

A good exercise for practicing is what is called ‘ghosting’ or ‘miming’ where you play one hand as normal.  With the other hand, you play the notes so lightly there is not a sound.

Here is a Josh Wright video. Graham Fitch also has videos  on this type of hand independence.

https://www.docsfilms.com/watch/ZoQoEdSzMms

I would recommend working on hands separate first... playing one hand so lightly there is not a sound and then adding the second hand.   Be patient. This takes time to learn 😊 and I don’t mean just one practice session. 

You can also learn this for just one hand where you have the melody and the supporting notes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGWFxnA_SQ

Offline pencilart3

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Re: Conflicting dynamics
Reply #2 on: April 13, 2019, 12:33:15 PM
Absolutely it is possible. That is good advice from @dogperson about ghosting one hand. Developing hand independence and finger "independence" (at least mentally, obviously the hand is meant to work as a unit but having dynamic and physical awareness of each finger) is extremely important for advancing technically and you will not regret the time you put into it. It will improve other areas of your technique for sure.
You might have seen one of my videos without knowing it was that nut from the forum
youtube.com/noahjohnson1810

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Re: Conflicting dynamics
Reply #3 on: April 13, 2019, 07:25:05 PM
The first thing to try, in order to get a handle on this, is to play a simple noted pattern CDEFG GFEDC - with both hand at the same volume - say, about mf... Then as you repeat this pattern in a loop, gradually have the LH quite down as the RH Stays at the mf volume.
Then, gradually have the LH return to the mf volume, and then Above the RH volume, at Forte... then gradually quiet down, and repeat the exercise.. The exercise through 1 cycle of dynamic shift, should be done over, say about 30 times, going up and down the 5 note pattern.
Then reverse the roles of the hands, - keeping the LH at MF while the RH fluctuates its volume..
This gets you on the path, in order to feel this difference between the hands...
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