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Offline bilgekaana

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Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
on: May 25, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
Can someone tell me what happens in bar 20 and so on. There is natural in c but haydn also put sharp on g so it is modulating to A major. I couldn't undertand the key change and modulation.

Haydn  Op.64 No.5 - D major.

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #1 on: May 25, 2020, 07:39:28 PM
I don't see the modulation to A major there. The passage is in D major. The C natural you see is just a passing tone on the way to B natural, the third of the subdominant. The G sharp in the second violin and the E sharp in the viola are also just passing tones, not indications of a key change. They're there for color, not for modulation.

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #2 on: May 25, 2020, 07:40:11 PM
I do not think it modulated to A major; the G# is part of the secondary dominant and the A functions as the dominant
The C-natural is simply part of the chromatic scale.

I am not an expert on this. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would correct me if I have said anything wrong.

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #3 on: May 25, 2020, 09:02:47 PM
Thank you for your answers altough I have 1 question how is C natural a leading tone to B ?

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #4 on: May 25, 2020, 09:14:43 PM
Thank you for your answers altough I have 1 question how is C natural a leading tone to B ?
The C-Natural is a nonharmonic tone. It is not part of the harmony and it leads/resolves into the B.

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #5 on: May 26, 2020, 01:22:10 AM
Thank you for your answers altough I have 1 question how is C natural a leading tone to B ?

The C natural is not a leading tone to B.

You can think of it this way. The C natural occurs in the D7 chord which resolves to a G chord and the c natural, the seventh of D7, drops a half step to b natural, the third of G major. That is a common voicing for a D7 -> G progression. Or you can think of it as just a chromatic passing tone on the way from d to b. If you listen though, I think you'll hear it as a part of a seventh chord. Still not a modulation, though, just a little color.

Here's a link to the Wikipedia article on non-chord tones, which include passing tones such as the c natural you were wondering about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonchord_tone

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Re: Key Change,Modulation in Haydn's quartet
Reply #6 on: May 26, 2020, 01:02:58 PM
Thank you everyone for your helps!!!
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