Wim Winters series, a thread

[pianoman53]

After a suggestion, I'll put all of the videos in obe thread.  So here is the series so far! Do come with ideas or questions if you like!

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Ep. 2

Ep. 3

Ep. 4

[keypeg]

Good to see.

[medtnerfan]

I think this is a good idea

[klavieronin]

The Czerny video was very interesting. It's amazing how much traction Wim Winters is getting though. He seems to have a lot of fans. I don't get it though. The evidence in favour of his thesis just seems so flimsy.

[keypeg]

You have certainly motivated me, and maybe other students, to go to Mr. Winters' site, and study what he is trying to say.  I would not have thought to do so otherwise.  If someone is to examine a refutation, then one must first study what is being refuted.  I don't know, however, whether I have the time to study what he is presenting, as you seem to be suggesting. 
Is there a reason why students should go look at this man's ideas?

Like, as a student, usually I go after what I can use.  Is there something of use for us in those ideas, or consideration of them?

[perfect_pitch]

Is there a reason why students should go look at this man's ideas?

No... I mean, it's the same theory as to why I have never seen the movie 'American Pie' or any of the sequels...

There are better things to do with my time.

[pianoman53]

The tables have turned!
Bachscholar made such a horrendously bad video, that I had to half defend the double beat ( not the idea, but the people).
It's important to not be a partisan hack, and to ignore the vad things your own side is doing.

Maybe keypeg will realise that it's not against Wim, but the misinformation, these videos are made.

[keypeg]

Maybe keypeg will realise that it's not against Wim, but the misinformation, these videos are made.

I never thought it was.  However, in order for us to understand what you are saying, we first have to study Wim - which is not what I think you are after.  My teacher's discussion with us about this some time back was rather short.  We expanded into music as a whole, and did not take that much time studying W's material.  I have plenty of learning material so I just don't go there. But if there is misinformation and students are taken in by it, I see your reason for doing this.  Are your own students getting pulled in, btw?

[perfect_pitch]

The tables have turned!
Bachscholar made such a horrendously bad video, that I had to half defend the double beat ( not the idea, but the people).

Yeah, unfortunately I don't have much faith in BachScholar as a pianist (or as a person) either. He was the one that tried to see himself as an editor but really took other peoples PDF's or scans, and trimmed the margins.

The guys a hack.

[pianoman53]

Episode 5