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Offline gustavowoltmann

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How to improve your singing style &voice quality
« on: November 06, 2020, 03:16:27 AM »
as you know singing is like a language, a body language.

what can you do if you don't have a good voice but want to sing?
How can you improve your singing voice?
What are the best singing tips out there?
What should you focus on when you practice singing?

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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #1 on: November 06, 2020, 06:13:48 AM »
as you know singing is like a language, a body language.

what can you do if you don't have a good voice but want to sing?
How can you improve your singing voice?
What are the best singing tips out there?
What should you focus on when you practice singing?

I'm not sure, but I'm afraid you're going to tell me.

So, which is it?  Youtube hits or some little app you're selling?

And just remember, I stand for Midiator, which is the hallmark of quality in advertising to rubes.
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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #2 on: November 10, 2020, 01:18:36 AM »
Hi, let see what happened....
plz follow all my posts and threads if you found any kind of link from my post to any video or site or any content you can kick me out form this forum.
 


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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #3 on: November 10, 2020, 06:35:37 AM »
Hi, let see what happened....
plz follow all my posts and threads if you found any kind of link from my post to any video or site or any content you can kick me out form this forum.

OK, then I suppose I was rude. 

What follows are the answers to your questions.

as you know singing is like a language, a body language.

No, I don't know that.  It may be like a language, but I don't know that at all.

what can you do if you don't have a good voice but want to sing?

I know a lot about that, having an untrained voice.

How can you improve your singing voice?

Practice sight-singing with exact pitch, with no vibrato.

What are the best singing tips out there?

Practice.

What should you focus on when you practice singing?

Sight singing, or singing by ear, with no vibrato, and control of timbre.  Establishing the effective range of your instrument.  Knowing when it's desirable to extend temporarily beyond your natural range, for brief periods.

You should be, after having established your technique, imitating those who inspire you in timbre and nuance, and extemporizing where possible to include your own ideas.
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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #4 on: November 10, 2020, 12:26:27 PM »
Hi, let see what happened....
plz follow all my posts and threads if you found any kind of link from my post to any video or site or any content you can kick me out form this forum.
 

Hi, as you know speakers and headphones sound completely different, and people use them in very different ways.
When you listen to stereo speakers, you always hear both channels with your two ears. Headphones don't have that problem; the left channel is only heard by the left ear, and the right channel only by the right ear.


https://www.cnet.com/news/headphones-vs-speakers-which-is-better/

From the recent activity that has been happening here, you can see that something like this can can raise questions.
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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #5 on: November 10, 2020, 03:18:35 PM »
I probably have no advice to give, but I also would not try to follow the advice that was given.  For example - why no vibrato - if vibrato gives a chance for the voice to relax?  Trying to aim for exact pitch - how?  Practice sight singing - how?   Technique isn't there at all: how to use the body, breath, etc.   In fact, I can imagine that trying to be totally precise in pitch could create some kind of strain.  And then, how can the person tell whether they are on pitch?  You can't hear what you can hear until you hear it.

I'd go on a site that is dedicated to singing.  A piano forum is the wrong place.

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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #6 on: November 10, 2020, 05:49:17 PM »
I probably have no advice to give, but I also would not try to follow the advice that was given.  For example - why no vibrato - if vibrato gives a chance for the voice to relax?  Trying to aim for exact pitch - how?  Practice sight singing - how?   Technique isn't there at all: how to use the body, breath, etc.   In fact, I can imagine that trying to be totally precise in pitch could create some kind of strain.  And then, how can the person tell whether they are on pitch?  You can't hear what you can hear until you hear it.

What's wrong about "strain" and what's so great about "relaxation"?  It seems to me these are mantras or hold-overs from thinking about keyboard technique. 

Technical problems like breath, timbre, phrasing, and anatomical considerations should be addressed, but you also have to remember that the OP didn't present any information or indications as to his or her problems.

How can one tell when one is on pitch?  Well, keyboards comprise a class of instruments that occasionally produce reference pitches.  There are others, I've noticed.  There's even a device called a "pitch pipe," I've heard.

"No vibrato," mirabile dictu, is a suggestion whose merit is easily clarified by observing the difference between someone who has adequate ear-training and is able to produce intervals at will versus someone who is deliberately blurring the vocal quality by modulating the frequency.  It's an effective way of deliberately singing "off key."  I hold that it should not be applied unless one is competent at producing accurate pitches.

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I'd go on a site that is dedicated to singing.  A piano forum is the wrong place.

That's not necessarily so.

I would try to pose some actual questions in an OP, however, rather than a laundry list of unreasonably vague demands.  As though it were a ransom note.

I'd also begin with the songs of Webern, and the songs of Debussy, particularly those with text provided by Mallarmé.  Or by imitating the song stylings of Lemmy Kilmister.
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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #7 on: November 12, 2020, 01:44:23 AM »
What's wrong about "strain" and what's so great about "relaxation"?  It seems to me these are mantras or hold-overs from thinking about keyboard technique. 
No.  I was thinking about singing.  It has nothing to do with keyboard.
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Technical problems like breath, timbre, phrasing, and anatomical considerations should be addressed, but you also have to remember that the OP didn't present any information or indications as to his or her problems.
It's a question I would not have answered, including the "laundry list" aspect you indicate later on.
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How can one tell when one is on pitch?  Well, keyboards comprise a class of instruments that occasionally produce reference pitches.  There are others, I've noticed.  There's even a device called a "pitch pipe," I've heard.
One must first be able to hear - the model note - and then whether one is on pitch with the model note.  Not everyone can.

I used to be in a choir that would gradually drift downward no matter how loudly the accompanist banged the notes.  Meanwhile, the sopranos would sort of drift toward me (they said) in order to stay in tune with our notes. I sing pretty well including in tune. But I'd not try to answer questions on-line that are so vague, or in general, because I don't think I'm qualified, or that it's easily done in written words in a forum.

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I would try to pose some actual questions in an OP, however, rather than a laundry list of unreasonably vague demands.  As though it were a ransom note. [/quote ]
Agreed.  Also note that the OP has not come back to respond to anyone yes.

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I'd also begin with the songs of Webern, and the songs of Debussy, particularly those with text provided by Mallarmé.  Or by imitating the song stylings of Lemmy Kilmister.
(Interested)  Why these in particular?

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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #8 on: November 12, 2020, 02:39:04 AM »
(Interested)  Why these in particular?

I don't know.

On the other hand, as a male baritone who has a problem reaching up into the tenor range, I always like to warm up by imitating Patricia Petitbon doing the "Hölle Rache."

I don't hate bots, necessarily, but it can be very tiring to try to interact with robot children.  Perhaps something interesting can made in the sewer that has been built out of their idiotic, plagiarized, trite utterances.

I'd like very much to talk about vocal technique, but this is a sort of compromise, I suppose.

C'mon, really?  "You know, I've heard that to play the Chopin on piano you have to make scales and arpeggios, so in which order should I do scales and also what keys to do arpeggios, and should I do all of them before I have my teacher make me do classical and Bach, because I only like romantic music on piano."

I know I'm pretty much super rad and stuff, but sometimes it's tiring.
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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #9 on: November 12, 2020, 04:43:22 AM »
I don't know.
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C'mon, really?  "You know, I've heard that to play the Chopin on piano you have to make scales and arpeggios, so in which order should I do scales and also what keys to do arpeggios, and should I do all of them before I have my teacher make me do classical and Bach, because I only like romantic music on piano."

I don't know who wrote that.  Couldn't find it in this thread.  However, the newest thread by the OP starts:

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Re: How to improve your singing style &voice quality
«Reply #10 on: November 12, 2020, 05:36:26 AM »
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