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Offline annaa joy

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fantasie impertru
on: March 19, 2021, 06:36:27 PM
hi, i wonder of someone could give me advice.
i play piano for 6 years in music school, and that can sound a lot but i must say that im not that good because my  tecaher dont wont to give me too much. just so you can know on what level i am im currently learning chaikowskys october, bachs invention 15 and mozarts sonnate number 7 and the sylphen from burgmuller. i think i can play harder commpozitions but my tecaher doesnt wont to bother. my question is do you think it could be possible to learn chopsn fantasie, i know its really hard and polymetric and requires a lot of time but i would really like to
also sorry for my english it not my native languge

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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #1 on: March 19, 2021, 06:56:10 PM
Hi! The Fantasie-Impromptu is quite a bit harder than those compositions you mentioned, so it will be challenging and it may feel a bit too much to handle for you at this time. It depends on what foundation your teacher has helped you achieve, with a good technical foundation, it may be a bit easier even if you haven't tackled such a difficult piece before. You could always try to work on some passages and just be honest with yourself if it is doable for you or not.

I'm sad to hear that your teacher does not support you more even though you feel excited about playing and want to learn more. Would it be possible for you to find another teacher who is more supportive? It can really make a difference and help you have more fun with your playing. They could maybe help you work in a focused way that is designed to help you achieve your goal of playing the Fantasie-Impromptu.

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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #2 on: March 19, 2021, 07:06:50 PM
Hi and welcome to Pianostreet.

Have you asked your teacher about playing more challenging music, other than the Fantasie Impromptu?  What was your teachers response? 

Did your teacher give a reason for not learning the Fantasie Impromptu? 

Does your teacher have other students that play music at the difficulty level of the Fantasie Impromptu? 

Six years in music school is a decent amount of experience playing and learning.  Although some of your other repertoire is not at the same difficulty as the Fantasie Impromptu, you are not far from it. 

What you can do is try out small sections of the Fantasie Impromptu.  If it is too overwhelming, wait a bit more to build up your technique.  It would be preferable that you study this piece with the guidance of a teacher, since it is a stretch from the difficulty of your current repertoire.

Some teachers like to stick to music that is familiar to them and do not like it much when students get adventurous and start exploring.  Other teachers just specialize in teaching a certain range of levels, for example beginner and intermediate, but not advanced.  Although from what you describe, it sounds like your teacher is being dismissive, which is unfortunate because they should be grateful that you are showing interest in pursuing your studies with more advanced music.  At the very least they should be giving you a detailed response on why you should or should not study the Fantasie Impromptu at this time.
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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #3 on: March 19, 2021, 07:16:24 PM
thank you very much.
unfortunately i dont think it will help me to change teacher because i have to choose between 8 of them that work in the school and they are even worse and i dont think my parents would do that, they dont even like when i play piano and tell me to stop.
because of what ypu wrote i decided maybe it really isnt a good time to start such a hard peace because i want to be fully ready to play it properly so maybe in a year or two and in a mean time ill try my best to improve my skills.
btw im a new to the forum so i still dont know how this funcionate.

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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #4 on: March 19, 2021, 07:28:55 PM
sorry i dont know how to replay on your messages but i hope ill evantually figure it out. i didnt really ask my teacher about that but she doesnt wont to have anything wotih it, i mean i play several pieces outside the schools program. i play nothing else matters and moon river by mancini but arranged by murizio, and im plannig on elarning hungarian dance cause its my grandmas favourite. unfortunatelly all that i have to learn by myself without any help and mostly on google sheets i look on screen of the pphone.i looked the first two rows of fantasie and i practiced but im not sure will i be able to play it in the proper speed eszpacially beacuse my left hand is slower. all in all i decided like you said to try some parts and the piece will be waiting for me in few years. in the meantime you can recomend me some compozittions.

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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #5 on: March 23, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
its acutally sonnate no 12 i f major not no 7.

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Re: fantasie impertru
Reply #6 on: March 23, 2021, 07:19:28 PM
I posted some repertoire tips in your other thread. I made some rather broad recommendations so you can look around a bit and find something you like, as I think we all tend to practise better - and more importantly, enjoy it a lot more! - if we find some pieces we really like.

Since your grandma likes that you play, and your parents don't, is there an option for you to go and practise at your grandma's place?
 

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