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Topic: Please will someone help me with some fingering for this piece  (Read 1136 times)

Offline pegasusgr

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Hello!

I’m currently learning “The Truth Untold” (by BTS) as arranged by Jova Musique (here is the link:
), and I wanted to ask for some advice for two difficult fast passages. The piece is in the key of C#-minor, and is written with ♩ = 113bpm and in 4/4 time, which makes the sixteenth notes/semi-quavers in those passages very fast.

Imgur post for difficult passage 1: https://imgur.com/a/uCzTnkw

Imgur post for difficult passage 2: https://imgur.com/a/3v4uqIP



Explanation of the Imgur posts:

The two Imgur posts above each deal with one difficult passage/bar, and the following bar of each passage. (The following bar is just shown to give context to the previous bar and it’s fingering).

However, each bar has two different fingering options, thus there are two bars altogether represented by four photos in each Imgur post.

Photos 1 & 3 represent a single difficult passage with two different fingering options (labeled options 1 and 2), which is the passage I’m trying to decide on fingerings for.

Photos 2 and 4 represent the same following bar, just to give context to the bar/passage represented in photos 1 and 3. This next bar is not one in which I’m unsure about the fingering (although I still appreciate any advice given :D). Photos 2 and 4 will also have different fingerings to each other because of the different fingerings of photos 1 and 3 (i.e. the fingering in photo 2 will be used for the next bar if the fingering in photo 1 was chosen for the previous bar, and the same with photo 4’s fingering being used if photo 3’s fingering for the same previous bar was chosen instead).

So for example, in the Imgur post for difficult passage 1, photos 1 and 3 represent the same difficult passage (in this example, the passage that starts with the G#+C# dyad/two-note chord), with two different fingering options which I’m trying to decide between.
Photos 2 and 4 represent the bar that comes afterwards (in this example, the passage that starts with the D#-B-G# triplet), with two different fingering options based on whether option 1 or option 2 (i.e. photo 1 or photo 3) was chosen for the previous bar’s difficult passage.

So, for each difficult passage (photos 1/3 per post), which fingering option would you recommend that I use, especially for speed and accuracy?

Thank you in advance for any advice you give!

Offline lelle

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In the C sharp minor image you might have mixed them up, as the image noted as "C#m arpeggio" fingering does not use the standard C#m arpeggio fingering, but rather the fingering the guy in the video uses. I would use this fingering for the C#m arpeggio rather than the standard C#m fingering. It will feel convenient if you can stay relaxed (dont tense your hands/fingers).

For B major, I think either fingering is fine and depends on what you are most comfortable with.

I hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions!

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You’re absolutely right, I did mix them up - thank you for pointing that out to me! I’ve fixed the mistake :)

So just to make sure, you’d suggest that I use the fingering that Jova Musique used for the C#m passage (i.e. option 1), not the fingering based on the normal C#m arpeggio?

Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!

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You need to post the surrounding bars of the bar under investigation so one knows what you are entering from and leaving towards in terms of fingering logic. An isolated bar will provide multiple fingerings options which cannot be judged as better without context from the bars surrounding it.
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You need to post the surrounding bars of the bar under investigation so one knows what you are entering from and leaving towards in terms of fingering logic. An isolated bar will provide multiple fingerings options which cannot be judged as better without context from the bars surrounding it.

I see what you mean, thank you. I posted the following bars, but I didn’t post the previous bars to the difficult passages because for both of the difficult passages, the previous bars take place higher up on the piano. Thus, no matter which fingering is used for the previous bars and the respective difficult passages, I’ll have to “jump” my hand from the previous note to get to each difficult passage’s starting note; there’s no way for me to transition from the last note of each previous bar to the first note of each difficult passage without lifting and moving my hand at least around 1.5 octaves lower on the piano.

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You’re absolutely right, I did mix them up - thank you for pointing that out to me! I’ve fixed the mistake :)

So just to make sure, you’d suggest that I use the fingering that Jova Musique used for the C#m passage (i.e. option 1), not the fingering based on the normal C#m arpeggio?

Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!

Yes, it seems more convenient for me :) If it feels tricky to get the thumb onto a black key it will be good practise to figure out how to do it in a way that feels smooth and easy :)

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Yes, it seems more convenient for me :) If it feels tricky to get the thumb onto a black key it will be good practise to figure out how to do it in a way that feels smooth and easy :)

Thank you very much! And yes, that’s a good point!
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