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Topic: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?  (Read 635 times)

Offline gospelpiano12

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Hello everyone,  I am a new to composing music and have been working on writing music for some of my original hymns. I cannot seem to get the hang of this hymn. Would someone be able to tell me what tine this is in (4/4,6/8,12/8,etc...) and if there is any syncopation that I should note?

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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #1 on: June 19, 2021, 12:29:54 PM
Your internal pulse is not that steady, but it's clearly in a slow two, so I would just write it that way.  Use 4/4 and write half notes for the main notes.

Suggestion:  your pitch drifts a bit too, and I think your chords would anchor that.  So write the chords in a notation program and use the playback to sing along with.  You could do it on guitar also, but then you would be subject to timing issues.  If you do that use a metronome.  Actually, use a metronome anyway when you're writing out the rhythm.

Is this for congregational singing, or soloistic like for a praise and worship band?
Tim

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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #2 on: June 19, 2021, 01:24:05 PM
Write out your melodic lines with rhythm and im sure you will solve your problems yourself.
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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #3 on: June 20, 2021, 12:54:05 AM
Write out your melodic lines with rhythm and im sure you will solve your problems yourself.

I suspect that's the hard part.  It's harder than some people realize.

When my daughter was in high school she wrote a graduation song, heartfelt and moving, but she needed help putting it into notation.

She had all the notes right.  She doesn't play piano or read much music but patiently sat at the piano and tried notes until she had all of them right.  Then she sang the melody to me and had me put time values on the notes. 

Yes, I did quantize, but very little was necessary, she naturally has an internal pulse. 
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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #4 on: June 20, 2021, 01:00:32 AM
People just need to experiment, download a notation program and give it a shot. We should encourage people to fish for themselves or they will perpetually take the lazy path and ask others for the answers. I was 6 years old and played around with notation programs (on a C64) if I could do it anyone can and today we have much better programs.
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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #5 on: June 20, 2021, 05:55:52 AM
People just need to experiment, download a notation program and give it a shot. We should encourage people to fish for themselves or they will perpetually take the lazy path and ask others for the answers. I was 6 years old and played around with notation programs (on a C64) if I could do it anyone can and today we have much better programs.


Just because you did this as a 6 yo, doesnít mean others can as an adult.  You are asking him to fish when he canít put the bait on the hook.

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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #6 on: June 20, 2021, 06:03:23 AM
To be fair, he only asked him to try it out. Which means that if he fails, he would still be welcome to post again.

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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #7 on: June 20, 2021, 07:23:12 AM


Just because you did this as a 6 yo, doesnít mean others can as an adult.  You are asking him to fish when he canít put the bait on the hook.
Actually it directly does imply that he can do it. I was 6 had poor theory understanding was using a computer with 64kb memory, he is already writing chord tabs, can sing the tune and has access to notation programs hundreds of times better than what I used,  are you blind to all that? You are arguing for no reason? Lol. People need to try things out before asking.

Why don't you explain what special talent I must have had that an adult totally cannot get? I know what I was like as a kid, nothing special about my notation understanding at all. So yes go ahead and experiment and try it out, programs these days can play back what you write and you can adjust until it sounds correct, are you saying his process is a very exclusive skill? Don't be ridiculous.
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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #8 on: June 20, 2021, 10:15:14 AM
People just need to experiment, download a notation program and give it a shot. We should encourage people to fish for themselves or they will perpetually take the lazy path and ask others for the answers.

Well, FWIW, I've given up on the OP.  He or she seems to put zero effort into making a coherent statement.

If he or she can upload a rudimentary chart, why not go the extra 0.25 and notate the music?

I don't give a *** about what church or whatever, but if I'm going to transcribe something, I'm getting paid.

Obviously the OP has the acumen to upload relentless files.  Maybe try using a pencil and some staff paper and figure it out.

At that point, I'd be happy to make corrections or suggest alternative voicings.  It's not even an interesting question in the abstract.

But this "help me, I don't know how!" is tired.  It's old.

Try first, then ask.
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Reply #9 on: June 20, 2021, 11:18:54 AM
It's all a little strange, the OP can ask a specific question but responses to advice is extremely generic.
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Re: Can Anyone Identify what Time Signature this is in?
Reply #10 on: June 20, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
It's all a little strange, the OP can ask a specific question but responses to advice is extremely generic.

I've never heard of OP, and he or she is a very capable musician.  I am not opening the pod bay doors.

Pencil and paper.  I can feel it. 

Generic response.


To the OP:  why don't you write it out?  The question should be more like:  "How do I learn to read and write?"

Yeah, you're goddamned right it's difficult.  I'm starting over again on guitar, learning to sight-read without tablature.  It's not easy, but you can try to make a small effort.

So, your questions, all of your threads boil down to:  "Why can't Johnny read or write?"

Be a bit more honest, and that's a legitimate question with any number of possible answers or suggestions.  I and others can certainly help with the basic tools needed so you can get started. 

No.  I'm not going to write it out so you can put your signature on it, as "your" hymn.  That's an actual job people do in real life, which is paid by the hour or tune, freelance, or on salary from a publishing company.

If you gave a rough attempt, I and others would probably be happy to make suggestions or corrections, but what you're asking is not reasonable, namely to fully transcribe your tune.
My name is Nellie, and I take pride in helping protect the children of my community through active leadership roles in my local church and in the Boy Scouts of America.  Bad word make me sad.
 

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