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mikkugo

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How to practice rhytms?

on: November 21, 2021, 01:39:20 PM

Good Morning,
I'm looking for rhythmic exercises, for clapping. Something like Hanon but for a rhythm. Long book, with a lot of exercises that I can practice to develop my rhythmic skills. Most important thing - I'm a self-taught on a beginner level so I need a lot of material to rework, but it musn't bee too hard, because there is no teacher who can tell me where I'm doing mistakes. Any propositions?

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arda152

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 01:45:20 PM

Check out the pages with rhythmic exerciseses from Richman's Super Sight-Reading Secrets. (Pages 17-20 in my edition)

You will have to skip the parts where he explains the physiology of sight-reading (which is also really interesting if you are curious about that stuff) but there are some rhythm drills that are really useful.

Unfortunately the has a weird structure so you'll have to read all the instructions about the rhythm drill to understand the exercises.

I used it myself to get better at reading music and in my lessons to teach rhythms and reading notes.

Hope this helps. If you want more material, just ask for it

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mikkugo

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #2 on: November 21, 2021, 02:04:39 PM

Thanks, but I'm looking for more. Book with a lot of exercises, preferably without a lot of text but with many exercises. The quantity is important here

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amarella

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #3 on: November 21, 2021, 10:45:13 PM

There is an app - Rhythm Trainer - try it. Its really helpful.

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arda152

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 09:11:24 AM

Quote from: mikkugo on November 21, 2021, 02:04:39 PM

Thanks, but I'm looking for more. Book with a lot of exercises, preferably without a lot of text but with many exercises. The quantity is important here

Then you can check out Mannheim University online ear training course. They have rhythmical dictation exercises that you can also use to clap along. "Rhythmus Perkussiv" can be interesting. Once you open the course page, you can either do dictation or download the answer sheet and just clap, and use the audio in the exercises to compare your results. I attached the first pdf as an example.

The website is here https://www.eartraining-online.de/rhythmus

a4 rhythmus perkussiv A_0.pdf (84.72 kB - downloaded 95 times.)

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quantum

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 02:45:55 PM

Ottman Music for Sight Singing.

It's designed for university music majors, but contains what you are asking. You can clap the melodic exercises too, so that makes most of the book suitable for your rhythmic practice. Many universities will have a course that teaches this material with specific focus, so there are also many texts out there with similar material to practice. Search for books in this category. As these courses often span an entire year there needs to be sufficient practice material.

You likely won't get a book with the amount of exercises you are looking for if you are just searching for texts directed at beginners.

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gipsypiano

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #6 on: December 03, 2021, 07:41:07 AM

hello,
what I found out works best is to play drums.
This practice (hand drums, shamanic drum, extatic drum, dance drum and so on)
made my piano rhythm playing a dimension better
and of course listen to good drummers with a living rhythm like african, gipsy, asiatic and other musics where the rhythm has much more importance.
In order not too much go this direction it helps a lot also to learn free singing and a melody instrument like flute. This will get another dimension to your piano playing.
good luck

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robintripp

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #7 on: May 22, 2022, 11:54:12 AM

A good book with lots of exercises is Basics in Rhythm, by Garwood Whaley, Meredith Music Publications.

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lelle

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #8 on: May 22, 2022, 11:11:15 PM

Quote from: robintripp on May 22, 2022, 11:54:12 AM

A good book with lots of exercises is Basics in Rhythm, by Garwood Whaley, Meredith Music Publications.

Could you describe a bit what kind of exercises there are and why you think it's could? I could use improving my sense of rhythm, I can be a bit unsteady at times.

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robintripp

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #9 on: June 14, 2022, 12:20:49 PM

Quote from: lelle on May 22, 2022, 11:11:15 PM

Could you describe a bit what kind of exercises there are and why you think it's could? I could use improving my sense of rhythm, I can be a bit unsteady at times.

What worked best for me in rhythms is to take a section of a work that has equal sixteenth notes, or in triplets, and apply a series of different rhythms. For example if the original has groups of 4 sixteenth notes, change to 2 sixteenth notes - 2 eighth notes, etc. by changing the position of the sixteenth notes and change to ternary subdivision. My teacher applied more than 20 different rhythms to a phrase, I don't always apply it but I do it in difficult passages

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timothy42b

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Re: How to practice rhytms?

Reply #10 on: June 14, 2022, 03:46:04 PM

Rhythmic Training by Robert Starer is used by other instrumentalists.

I differ a little bit in approach, because I think that experienced musicians don't count (though of course they can) but have internalized the common rhythms over time. You should not have to count a dotted quarter eighth note rhythm, or an eighth quarter eighth pattern; you just know what that sounds like because you've heard it a zillion times. There aren't that many common rhythms that you can't just memorize them by rote.

I played a gig Sunday with rhythms that were impossible to count. A samba rhythm: fast cut time, pattern is quarter quarter eighthrest eighthnote eighthrest eighthnote eighthrest dotted quarter. Maybe you can count that, I can't, but I can play it.

When in doubt type the rhythm into a notation program, set it to playback in a loop, listen until you can't get it wrong.

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