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Offline frederic

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Fingering in Liszt etudes
« on: April 15, 2003, 11:10:08 AM »
I've noticed that Liszt purposely make the pianist uncomfortable with all that hand position he's given us. But especially in those etudes he puts down really strange fingering. Like a glissando sixth apart with one hand. So is it important to follow what fingerings hes written?
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #1 on: April 18, 2003, 10:21:45 AM »
Hey seriously you guys don't have anything to say?
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #2 on: April 18, 2003, 02:46:09 PM »

Of course,not.Make it easy to you.
 
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #3 on: April 19, 2003, 11:00:43 PM »
The fingering given in Liszt etudes are usually right on.  You may not like them at the beginning, but they are the best fingering.  For one they strenghthen your fingers emensly and will make you a better pianist for sure.  Fingering is given for a reason.  Try to work with it even if you don't like it.  Need any other help, just let me know.  

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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #4 on: April 20, 2003, 12:49:24 AM »
Well, in La Chasse, in the 2nd section when it goes to E minor, it is very obvious that you can use the thumb to play the semiquaver, which is more comfortable and more practical. But Liszt wants you to use 2. Which I think is ridiculous.
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #5 on: April 20, 2003, 01:06:09 AM »
hey, i wouldnt be that sure that those liszt-type positions etc r not comfortable. in fact, its really practical, and very often quite easy, not matter how complicated it sounds! but id advise u not 2 take all his tips on fingering seriously- some of them are really individual. u should search the stuff suitable 4 u !! and be careful-sts some of liszt's fingering is really bizzare, but essential 2 express sth characteristic, atypical etc. and then its good 2 follow it ;)
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #6 on: April 20, 2003, 01:20:49 AM »
I find thats the same with Chopin, All these odd fingerings.... But i knew Chopin had a strange techinque...
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #7 on: April 20, 2003, 01:21:32 AM »
I'm talking about his Urtext editions which have his own fingerings....
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Re: Fingering in Liszt etudes
«Reply #8 on: April 20, 2003, 02:24:13 AM »
Chopin was largely self-taught, so he used techniques that were considered eccentric in his time, but that modern pianists would consider essential to good playing.
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