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mmm151

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Mordant accidentally

on: March 07, 2022, 01:32:50 PM

In bar 10 of the Beethoven Sonata Op 11, 2nd movement, does the 2nd mordant have E flat or E natural?

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themeandvariation

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Re: Mordant accidentally

Reply #1 on: March 07, 2022, 05:14:59 PM

If you mean the 1st movement, bar 10, - the 2nd mordant has an E flat.

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andrewuk

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Re: Mordant accidentally

Reply #2 on: March 07, 2022, 08:25:04 PM

Op. 11 is the ""Gassenhauer" trio, not a sonata. Did you mean Sonata no. 11 (op 22)?

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mmm151

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Re: Mordant accidentally

Reply #3 on: March 08, 2022, 12:02:29 AM

I meant Beethoven's Grand Sonata No 11, Op 22. In view of the fast tempo, how would you play the mordents - as the usual 3-note ornament ie B flat, C, B flat for the 1st mordant & D, E flat, D for the 2nd mordent, followed by the notes C, D E natural F? Or would crushed notes suffice here?

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themeandvariation

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Re: Mordant accidentally

Reply #4 on: March 08, 2022, 08:01:21 PM

Yes, and Yes.

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lelle

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Re: Mordant accidentally

Reply #5 on: March 08, 2022, 10:36:08 PM

I've played 3 note ornaments in these passages.

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