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Offline drhosseinzadeh

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I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
on: April 20, 2022, 01:44:25 PM
Hi there
I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu .
Would you please suggest some etude to help me learn this beautiful piece?
Thanks
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Offline lelle

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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #1 on: April 20, 2022, 08:31:58 PM
How's your scales and arpeggios? Have you played some Etudes by Czerny, Burgmuller, Heller etc?
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #2 on: April 21, 2022, 02:47:47 AM
This piece is fairly advanced. Why don't you give us an idea of where your technique and current repertoire is at so you can get a more informed advice on how you might want to proceed.

I'll add on to what lelle said by suggesting you're played at least a few pieces with 4 against 3/3 against 4 polyrhythm.
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #3 on: April 21, 2022, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: lelle on April 20, 2022, 08:31:58 PM
How's your scales and arpeggios? Have you played some Etudes by Czerny, Burgmuller, Heller etc?
thanks for reply
Yes I played arpeggios and scales from hanon mainly. And been playing piano for a while. Can play Mozart rondo Alla turca an fur Elise fairy well
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #4 on: April 21, 2022, 11:35:32 AM
Quote from: bwl_13 on April 21, 2022, 02:47:47 AM
This piece is fairly advanced. Why don't you give us an idea of where your technique and current repertoire is at so you can get a more informed advice on how you might want to proceed.

I'll add on to what lelle said by suggesting you're played at least a few pieces with 4 against 3/3 against 4 polyrhythm.
thank you very much
No I didn't play polyrhythm
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Offline drhosseinzadeh

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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #5 on: April 22, 2022, 02:56:24 AM
No etude is suggested?
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #6 on: April 22, 2022, 04:26:30 AM
Well, if you really want an etude, you can play scales in 4:3 polyrhythms. Just C major scales up and down in a 4:3 polyrhythm should help.
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #7 on: April 22, 2022, 09:48:57 AM
There's a beautiful Chopin etude which deals with 4:3 polyrhythms in a slower tempo than Fantaisie Impromptu. In the etude it's the other way around - the left hand has 4 notes and the right hand has 3. It might offer you some valuable experience before tackling the Impromptu.

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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #8 on: April 24, 2022, 06:52:44 AM
There are Etudes by Roslavets and Ligeti that deal with polyrhythms (as for Ligeti, not all of them, maybe Desordre (please pardon if my spelling is wrong) or Vertige, I dont know). And practise the ending climax of Chopin's last ballade, it has 9:6 polyrhythms. Hope this helps.
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #9 on: April 24, 2022, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: ranjit on April 22, 2022, 04:26:30 AM
Well, if you really want an etude, you can play scales in 4:3 polyrhythms. Just C major scales up and down in a 4:3 polyrhythm should help.
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #10 on: April 24, 2022, 08:15:51 AM
Quote from: lelle on April 22, 2022, 09:48:57 AM
There's a beautiful Chopin etude which deals with 4:3 polyrhythms in a slower tempo than Fantaisie Impromptu. In the etude it's the other way around - the left hand has 4 notes and the right hand has 3. It might offer you some valuable experience before tackling the Impromptu.


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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #11 on: April 24, 2022, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: f flat minor on April 24, 2022, 06:52:44 AM
There are Etudes by Roslavets and Ligeti that deal with polyrhythms (as for Ligeti, not all of them, maybe Desordre (please pardon if my spelling is wrong) or Vertige, I dont know). And practise the ending climax of Chopin's last ballade, it has 9:6 polyrhythms. Hope this helps.
Where can I get them
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #12 on: April 24, 2022, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: drhosseinzadeh on April 24, 2022, 08:16:41 AM
Where can I get them

I think you have to purchase them in a store or online since they're still under copyright (more modern composers).
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Re: I love to learn Fantaisie-Impromptu
Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 09:03:28 AM
Quote from: anacrusis on April 24, 2022, 09:34:39 PM
I think you have to purchase them in a store or online since they're still under copyright (more modern composers).
ok thanks👍
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