Van Cliburn Rach 3

[musicsdarkangel]

I have listened to this recording, over and over, and I have heard many performances of the Rach 3. 

I cannot believe the lack of mention of this performance.  I think that he makes every second absolutely beautiful.

Has anyone else heard this?

[musicsdarkangel]

no one has heard this?

[lenny]

nope, i dont know much about van cliburn other than he is really tall , gay, and won the tchaikovsky.

[musicsdarkangel]

It seems to me that you are being sarcastic, but if you aren't, his recordings are well worth checking out.

[lenny]

ive only heard a couple recordings of his.

not the big things like tchaikovsky or rach though, id like to see videos of him in his prime.

[stormx]

I have a CD titled "My favorite Brahms" by Van Cliburn, and i like it very much. 

I did not listened to his Rachmaninoff 3° piano concerto, tough.

[brewtality]

His rach 3 is very good even though his tempi are on the slow side. Generally, i prefer a more virtuostic performance but this recording along with Ashkenazy/Fistoulari is good to listen to when i get sick of the showy versions of other pianists.

[steinwayguy]

When I saw the title of this thread I said "the greatest". I have heard dozens of recordings of this piece, Van Cliburn and Horowitz(/Ormandy) are the only two I routinely come back to.  Van Cliburn really does make every moment convincing, including the first movement cadenza, which some people complain about. I couldn't say enough about his recording of the piece.

[steinwaymodeld]

I prefer his Rach2 over his Rach3.

O yea, i have the video of his Rach2 at his peak of career.

[BoliverAllmon]

I prefer his Rach2 over his Rach3.

O yea, i have the video of his Rach2 at his peak of career.

you have just amount everything man.

[PianoStudentReady2Perform]

I prefer his Rach2 over his Rach3.

O yea, i have the video of his Rach2 at his peak of career.

Woah do you really...man you should post that on a web server so we can access it!! that would be awesome!

[chromatickler]

His rach 3 is very good even though his tempi are on the slow side. Generally, i prefer a more virtuostic performance but this recording along with Ashkenazy/Fistoulari is good to listen to when i get sick of the showy versions of other pianists.

thy treachery hath not gone unnoticed 

[steinwaymodeld]

Woah do you really...man you should post that on a web server so we can access it!! that would be awesome!

Na, I don't think that's a good idea.

[pianopoet]

Was Van gay?! OOOOHHHHH - He was SO cute. The little speech he made at the airport when he returned from winning was SO adorable... Anyway, I bought the Rach3 and was disappointed with it. I'll listen to it again and maybe reevaluate my opinions... I read recently taht it won a grammy. Honestly, the littel slip between orchestra and soloist on the beginning of the 3rd mvt put me off but like I said Ill try put my prejudices aside and listen to it afresh...

[brewtality]

  thy treachery hath not gone unnoticed 

I didn't say that it happened often. I want moisture, speed and fury in this piece.

[lenny]

  thy treachery hath not gone unnoticed 

yes, and showy=fast?

i get sick of this profound=slow, showy= fast bull****

[PianoStudentReady2Perform]

Na, I don't think that's a good idea.

sure it is!  I'm sure everyone would appreciate your generosity.

[brewtality]

I never said that fast= showy. Listen to Rachmaninoff's recording, its among the fastest on record (based on the tempi) but would you say that its showy? i wouldn't.

[lenny]

I never said that fast= showy. Listen to Rachmaninoff's recording, its among the fastest on record (based on the tempi) but would you say that its showy? i wouldn't.

then what do you mean by showy?

speed for the sake of speed?

[brewtality]

I view showiness (is that even a word?) as having more to do with antics such as excessive rubato, exaggerated volume changes etc than speed. Speed never bothers me when used appropriately. I PREFER fast tempi but it has to serve musical purposes.

[lenny]

ah, so basically langlang is showy?

i actually enjoy that type of rach, along with more sober renditions.

[krenske]

Its all relative really isnt it.

[rachmaninoff_969]

thank you Krenske!