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Topic: Wrong Note Etude Help  (Read 1035 times)

Offline chungii

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Wrong Note Etude Help
on: September 06, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
Hello, I recently picked up the wrong note for fun but realized how hard it is to bring out the main melody in the main part. I need some tips on how to make this melody stand out while keeping the "wrong notes" a bit quieter. Right now, the dissonance notes are the ones that stand out instead of the E minor part.
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Offline cuberdrift

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Re: Wrong Note Etude Help
Reply #1 on: September 08, 2022, 09:43:15 AM
Well I performed this piece before, it was really tricky. I guess you just need to practise it very slowly and make sure the top notes are highlighted.

Offline kalirren

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Re: Wrong Note Etude Help
Reply #2 on: September 15, 2022, 11:30:52 PM
It's important to notice that a lot of the left hand chords have to be rolled - and when the left hand chords are not just rolled but separated, like in the first repetition of the main theme just before the B section, the wrong note becomes easier to play melodically.

The key challenge is to figure out how to play the grace notes in the right hand, relative to the left hand rolled chords, so that the consonances are emphasized.
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Re: Wrong Note Etude Help
Reply #3 on: September 16, 2022, 06:52:13 PM
I think it helps to realize that:
a) Your pointer finger (2) is longer than your pinky, and
b) The thumb is a really strong and heavy finger, and moves downward mainly by the muscle (abductor and adductor) that moves the rest of your fingers sideways, which is slow and heavy (try it out with your other fingers).

For point a), you should try to have your hand in a position that gives 2 and 5 about equal height. Experiment with lowering your wrist just a tiny bit, from the forearm (which will also straighten your pointer finger a bit) and/or ever so slightly tilting your hand. Your pinky should naturally be further away from the piano (closer to you) than your pointer finger and it's easier to get sound there. Make sure you help your pinky with arm weight and rotation.

b) It helps me to feel like I should barely be "helping" my thumb with finger action, moving it mainly (sometimes even only) by forearm rotation (always to the left for the right hand). Make sure your wrist doesn't hinder your arm movement or your thumb will overcompensate, but don't over-relax it either (it will collapse and/or get very tired).

As a general note, playing too "fast" (not in tempo, but in how fast you move the keys) hinders control, so also dynamic control. Again from the forearm rotation, think of slowing down into and with the key. Especially the thumb tends to just fly ahead by itself. You can play very fast by "playing slow" like this!

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Re: Wrong Note Etude Help
Reply #4 on: September 29, 2022, 03:37:57 PM
Thank you so much, this is definitely helping now it's just up to my practice!
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