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Offline hermes trismegistus

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Help with scriabin Op. 8/1 - counting rhythm
on: September 15, 2022, 01:20:58 PM
Hi! I know this question is probably very basic, but I am learning piano by myself so I find this a bit confusing...  :(

I know that the tempo here is common* time, but no sure of which note should I put the accent. My teacher told me that the accent was in the second beat of each quaver, but that it had to be a light, not a strong accent.
While the first beat of each quaver had to be like a "ghost" note, so to speak.

I don't think I understood it very well, so I am looking for a second opinion here...

Can someone help me with this? Thanks in advance...


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Offline anacrusis

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Re: Help with scriabin Op. 8/1 - counting rhythm
Reply #1 on: September 16, 2022, 12:41:16 PM
I'm not sure I understand either. I don't understand where you are getting the idea that the tempo is in cut time, when it's just a normal C in the time signature?

What do you mean with the accent being in the second beat of each quaver? Do you mean each quaver that is not on the beat should be accented? Right hand or left hand? What do you mean with a ghost note?

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Re: Help with scriabin Op. 8/1 - counting rhythm
Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 01:03:38 PM
I'm not sure I understand either. I don't understand where you are getting the idea that the tempo is in cut time, when it's just a normal C in the time signature?

What do you mean with the accent being in the second beat of each quaver? Do you mean each quaver that is not on the beat should be accented? Right hand or left hand? What do you mean with a ghost note?

Sorry for my bad explanation. Not native speaker.

What I don't understand very well is how should I accent the double notes in the right hand. My teacher told me " forget the first one" in each quaver, and accentuate the second, or something so. Then I have to give a light accent to the second note, and a strong accent in the melodic line.... Right?

Thaks for your reply.

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Re: Help with scriabin Op. 8/1 - counting rhythm
Reply #3 on: September 17, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
Commonly when we are playing something were there is repeated notes but a changing other note in the same hand, the repeated notes are somewhat subdued and we bring out the note that is changing. In this case there are two voices, the repeated chords vs the single changing note which acts as a melodic note, so it would be in good taste to bring out that melodic line somewhat, I wouldn't say so strong as to accent it but certainly give it length and avoid it being overpowered by the repeated chord.
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Re: Help with scriabin Op. 8/1 - counting rhythm
Reply #4 on: September 18, 2022, 09:24:35 PM
I'm not sure if accent is the right word. Your teacher might want to avoid that you play a strong accent on each beat (the first note of each group of eighth notes), because this can make the music sound heavy and bogged down. So play the first note in the groups softly, put slightly more emphasis on the second note, and then slightly more still on the third note, which sort of serves as a melody.
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