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quintekno

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Hey everyone, I’ve been playing the piano for nearly 10 years now and I don’t have a teacher at the moment.
I want to go ahead and start op. 25/12 but I’m not sure if I have the potential to play it now because I haven’t been playing that much lately…

My first etude was 10/12 and the first one of the trios nouvelles etudes, some of my other repertoire includes

Chopin: waltz op. 64 no. 2
Chopin: nocturne in c#m (posth)
Chopin: preludes no. 4, 7, 15
Prokofiev: op. 75 no. 6
Debussy: prelude brouillards
Mussorgsky: Gnomus
Rachmaninoff: prelude op. 3 no.2 and op. 23 no. 6
Ligeti: etude no. 5 arc-en-ciel

I’m also thinking of studying Rachmaninoff prelude op. 23 no. 5 at the same time…

Thoughts?

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robertus

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Re: Chopin etude 25/12 help

Reply #1 on: September 30, 2022, 04:51:50 AM

Sure! It's a piece which is very hard to play with precision, exactness, and the voicing exactly as written. The good news is, though, that it's a work that sounds fantastic even played somewhat imperfectly.

In terms of pure dexterity, it's easier that Op 10, No. 12- and also a great place to learn the 'hand-shift' arpeggio technique.

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lostinidlewonder

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Re: Chopin etude 25/12 help

Reply #2 on: September 30, 2022, 04:15:23 PM

My thoughts are that after 10 years studying the piano I would be worried if I had to ask random people on the internet if I could attempt a piece or not. Surely you can judge it for yourself and measure if you can handle it and if not that is a much more important discussion. If you had something like a specific question about the pieces with bar numbers and your fingering solutions we might have a discussion with more substance.

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quintekno

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Re: Chopin etude 25/12 help

Reply #3 on: September 30, 2022, 08:47:23 PM

Quote from: lostinidlewonder on September 30, 2022, 04:15:23 PM

My thoughts are that after 10 years studying the piano I would be worried if I had to ask random people on the internet if I could attempt a piece or not. Surely you can judge it for yourself and measure if you can handle it and if not that is a much more important discussion. If you had something like a specific question about the pieces with bar numbers and your fingering solutions we might have a discussion with more substance.

Yes, I was asking because I took a pretty long break from playing the piano recently and started on Prokofiev suggestion diabolique but couldn’t make it to the end, that made me feel insecure about my “skills” because I feel like I would have been tackle that one before I took that break.

Coming back to the original topic 25/12, any practice tips for this one?
It feels like I can’t play the arpeggios with consistency..

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lostinidlewonder

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Re: Chopin etude 25/12 help

Reply #4 on: October 02, 2022, 02:17:55 AM

You need to post a video of yourself attempting it then we can judge what might need adjustment. The arpeggios have a very easy pattern which i am surprised you do not understand with utter ease given you play pieces like the Ligeti which has patterns many times more difficult. In Op25 no12 they are generally only 3 notes with connections of repeated notes. You could cut the bars up and only learn the upwards movements first or even play the bars as 3 note chords instead of broken chords first. You could also play the passages with dotted rhythms, short/long and long/short (like the Prokofiev: op. 75 no. 6 RH opening) rhythmic couples then go back to normal.

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